The Rian Johnson Thread

RJ admits with no shame or embarrassment that he moved it. It was a "command decision" as they say. So why would he move it back?

 

I wasn't implying he'd move it back to where Abrams had it, just stating that the one in the teaser isn't a lock to be the final one.
He could use digital FX to make it look bigger. He could have decided it needs to be tweaked one way a little more.

 

You aren't. There was an entire thread dedicated to this topic: https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/the-scar-that-moved.11830/

 

So we have quotes from the man in charge saying that he intentionally moved it. We've seen where it was moved to in the teaser. But we have speculation from some on these threads saying it might not be where we've seen it moved to.

Until I see otherwise, I'll trust my eyes.

 

This is great to hear. My opinion of / reaction to movies changes sometimes -- this is common after I see more movies from a particular director (it can make me retroactively appreciate the previous movies more), or learn something about a particular film that gives me a new perspective. Like I said, I'm very excited about RJ's vision for SW, was just curious how other people felt about his tonal approach in his other movies and how it might translate in TLJ.

 

I noticed it, but I'm not losing sleep over it.

 

THIS is how the scar SHOULD look for TLJ:

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Colilder33.jpg

 

No one has said he didn't move it on purpose. Just that the film is a long way from done.
Is it probably the one in the trailer? yes.
Is it guaranteed to be? Absolutely not.

 

IMO that wouldn't look that great.

 

Can you elaborate on "great"? IMO it should match the wound he had at the end of TFA, regardless of how it looks.

 

False. It's a visual medium.
Aesthetics > continuity.

There's overlap between the two but at the same time, the aesthetics of the scar being where it has been moved to honestly changes nothing about continuity of the story.

 

Agree to disagree

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Except Snoke is hideous - where's the aesthetic there?

 

He's not a world class actor who will be asked to emote as much.
Snoke is the equivalent of any other disfigured monster in a movie.
They want Kylo/Ben to still be seen as human.

 

The scar placement has no impact on his ability to "emote" IMO.

 

I think that he wanted it moved because he is famous for a time jump movie. There is a theory that suggests Kylo is young Snoke. By moving the scar they remove one of the chief arguments for Snoke is Kylo from the future.

 

Was there ever such a theory? Gee...

Can we just end this scar discussion? It stays where the director wants it to be and constant bickering about such a trivial and meaningless detail won't change anything.

PS. Do you remember professor Flitwick from the Harry Potter films? That magic teacher played by Warwick Davis? His character's looks were changed dramatically between Chamber of Secrets and Prisoner of Azkaban. Why, you may ask? Because Alfonso Cuarón, the film's director, wanted him to look differently. Take a look.

He also allowed actors that played students to dress more loosely when compared to Chris Columbus' films and also tweaked and changed a number of other flms. And what was the results of these alterations? His vision was still used in the later films and he directed the best film in the whole franchise (Here's a good video on that topic.) So, let Rian Johnson do his job and I can guarantee you the last thing you'll be talking about is whether this scar has moved or if Luke's prosthetic arm is one or two milimetres longer.

 

It was suggested on the forums at one point. And there is at least one youtube vid on it.

I suugested its possible at the time. Lucas wrote a sequel to Willow a trilogy about the sacred princess (the baby in Willow). She was supposed to u ite everyone and usher peace yada yada. There was a villain that fought her through 3 books. It turned out to be her from the future. She used a spell to come back and stop herself. Her rule was a failure so she wanted to save the world from herself. In the end the young princess let go of trying to control.

So I just figured shifting it around made it look less like the face wound Snoke has.

 

It does though. It's not a matter of opinion.
If the scar blocks eyes or distracts from the face or otherwise impedes the actor, it's not in a good place.

Rian thought it looked goofy and didn't work. it got moved.

Strange hill to choose to die on for a Star Wars movie.

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Or when movies just change actors.

 

"t does though. It's not a matter of opinion.
If the scar blocks eyes or distracts from the face or otherwise impedes the actor, it's not in a good place. "

Again, agree to disagree. Even with different actors playing the role, they kept the big, gaudy scar in relatively the same place in all the Terminator movies(and TV). It was large and ugly and did not distract the audience or impede the actors ability to perform. It worked perfectly.

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The bottom line is RJ just didn't like the way it looked and he made the call. He has that right to make that call. And those of us who don't like it have the right to say it's a bad call.