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The Rise of Skywalker & The Mandalorian

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Situation Normal, Dec 24, 2019.

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    I thought this thread would be good to discuss this separately from the rest of the film, and didn’t think I could post in The Mandalorian thread because of spoilers, please correct if wrong.

    We have a force sensitive Yodaling that is possibly the most important asset in the galaxy after the fall of the empire.

    Whatever it is he is wanted for it is a material that can be ‘extracted’ from him.

    He can force heal, is it this ability they want him for or just his force sensitivity in general? If it’s the latter,

    I need to double check the timelines but I’m pretty sure Snoke hasn’t been on the scene in any canon up to this point, so..

    Is this material what the Emperors Sith Eternal clone workers need to be able to create Snoke but also give him force powers to boot?

    Or is going deeper and these are the very first steps of the emperors plan to be brought back to life?

    I really hope that The Mandalorian has been planned out with all this in mind and we could see that bigger story be told in the background over 5-7 seasons with Mando dodging around with Yodaling doing his thing..
     
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    The impression I got from Chapter 7 is that BY is important to Moff Gideon personally. I think he wants him for his own ends and has nothing to do with the Emperor.
     
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    So far there's only speculation as to why people want the Yodaling. I feel that every iteration of the Jedi order has one of this species as the head of the order and this is the Yodaling's destiny. Whoever wants it destroyed is trying to wreck a new Jedi order from rising by eliminating the Yodaling. I'd speculate that, given the timing of the birth of the Yodaling coinciding with the birth of Anakin, the force was anticipating the purge of the Jedi and setting things up to be ready for the new Jedi order to emerge post TROS.

    There seems to be another group more interested in obtaining the Yodaling instead of eliminating it. I'd speculate that Moff Gideon is wanting it to rise in control over the fragmented Empire. Having the Yodaling and raising him to be a killing machine would inspire fear and be a potent tool of persuasion. Who knows.

    But I still wonder who it was that had the Yodaling to begin with. Someone had obtained the Yodaling in that compound that Mando and IG broke into. Who was it? I can't make sense of it at the moment.
     
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    One possibility that comes to mind, for me, is The Child is used to partially heal and/or partly help to resurrect or keep barely alive the Phantom Emperor.

    The Child, being innocent and with an instinct to heal wounds, might automatically do this when placed beside the failing or lifeless Emperor by Sith acolytes.

    And then, in my mind, I could see this beginning to happen (perhaps on Exogol?) and then Mando manages to interrupt "the ritual" (possibly nearly or completely sacrificing himself in the act), at which point The Child is taken by either Cara Dune or IG-11 away to safety at the end, somewhere in the Unknown Regions, potentially for a future generation of Jedi

    - but not before some faint haunting laughter arising from the unholy halls of Exogol, indicating the healing had been successful in some manner....

    (yoda 2)(pwned)
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    I happened to watch Mando Chapter 7 just one day before watching TROS. The new Force-Healing powers are the obvious most direct connection between the the two stories. This new power has been shown by the Yodaling, Rey and Ben, in that order. The opposite power (Force-unhealing? not sure how to call it) was shown by Palpatine when taking life power from Rey and Ben to his own.
    I also wouldn't be surprised if Yodaling ends up being an ingredient to bring either Palpatine or Snoke to life, most likely the former. After all, the Child is being referred as 'the asset'. It would be a major shock to audiences that are becoming so attached to Baby Yoda, due to his/her cuteness. However, the Mando series has a tone much darker than any of the movie episodes.
    The whole SW stories is not just a fairy-tale story of good vs evil. There are elements that remind us sad chapters of our human history: war, wold wars, invasions, corrupt leaders, all-powerful dictators, the killing of innocents, genocide, and of course, experimenting with humans, which was done during WWII. The lab at Exogol gave me that dark feeling, that Exogol was a place for experimenting with the living.
     
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    They only need to extract a material from him, the way the client spoke implied that they could get what they want and Yodaling still be kept alive, I think this is the route that they will go with.
    I would guess that we will only hear references of the sith eternal and exegol as opposed to Mando ending up there or the story actually taking place there, but done in a way that we can connect the dots with the info from the films and other canon sources.

    This will only start from season 2 onwards but I’m pretty sure Moff Gideon will be following orders either from the Sith Eternal directly or Snoke and we start seeing the early rise of the first order.
     
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