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SPECULATION THE STARKILLER: How Does it Work? Iron - Science Fact May Actually Inform Science Fiction

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by WeWhoSurvived, Oct 5, 2015.

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    Yes! And in that Rebels episode too. That star destroyer took the ship right out of hyperspace. So the ship could possibly control hyperspace from outside of it controlling the direction of the giant plasma beam. Nice!
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    Same blue atmosphere...

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    The Dec. 2nd Rolling Stone article reports the Starkiller was also unofficially called a "Sunsucker" by the filmmakers.

    And just a few days ago there was a very interesting discussion about iron and stellar death on an Astronomy Reddit page here. It's almost like that OP was trying to fit it into Star Wars because iron is known to "suck" the energy of a star once it begins to produce it.
     
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    "Stellar" ?
     
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    So we would have the same IN-Universe physics as the real-worlds of Star Wars, since it's in A GALAXY, not "In another universe..."
     
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    Yeah, I'm thinking some in-universe physics are similar to ours to some degree, and that's why I made this post—because sci-fi fact can be useful serve to inform fiction, even Star Wars (more so in Star Trek), even though there is no drag or sound in space, blah blah. Still, you can't just pull something out of left field and expect audiences to swallow it as automatically plausible. I'm sure they're going to be careful with any types of in-universe explanations of the Force and technologies, especially following the lessons learned with the midi-chlorians embellishment disaster. They know fans are extremely picky. Even though it's sci-fi fantasy fiction, some story elements need to be explainable. At least to some degree. Like, proton torpedos were described as necessary to destroy the first Death Star, not blasters, because the exhaust port was "ray-shielded." That's taken right out of General Dodonna's Death Star attack plan scene in ANH. For the second Death Star, it looked as if Wedge used proton torpedoes to destroy the power regulator while it sounded like (and looked like) Lando simply used the Falcon's forward blasters to destroy the power generator. Like logical cause and effect with in-universe laws of physics and weapons obeyed ... nothing exotic had to be cooked up and these things can be talked about and then visually backed up, whereas midi-chlorians can't be seen. Nonetheless, because it's sci-fi fantasy, they still have a very long leash. There's the Force, which will likely be expanded upon in scope and power and who uses it and how it's awakening. There are crystals in canon, the planet Ilum, lightsabers, blah blah. They can make up as much shiz they want to and likely will to further expand the scope of the Force without getting too technical. But they can't skirt all explanations. Some exposition will be necessary.
     
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    I'm sorry to be the one to have to tell you this, but Pablo Hidalgo apparently loves to talk about those things. In one of the Rebels Recon programs revolving around Kiber Crystals he felt compelled to mention that eight Kiber Crystals arranged in a circle would make a great superweapon (and thus he ignored and revised all the expert feed Dr. David West Reynolds reflected in the Original Trilogy Cross-Sections book).

    So instead of an anti- and/or hypermatter stream (with pockets of exotic matter aligned like pearls on a string as seen in the OT films) contained within a magnetic or containment field (as seen in the OT films) we are now looking essentially as a bigger lightsaber blade that pokes the planet.

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    Now, from what I've seen so far in the Star Wars films a lightsaber stuck into a solid object will create a lot of heat but will not make the object (wall, door, living tissue) explode.
    Here is a graphic visualization that shows you the Death Star next to an Earth size planet.

    Earth Death Star size comparison.jpg

    If the above Death Star would stuck its super-lightsaber blade inside a planet, it will definitely create a new and big volcano and probably cause major earthquakes by rupturing the tectonic continental plates, but I can't remotely imagine that it will cause the planet to explode.

    Yes, instead of making things worse by coming up with new and worse in-universe explanations, I'd really prefer them not to say anything and just leave it as it is.
     
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    Good point and I agree. I think it would indeed make matters worse for laborious in-universe explanations and exposition. There's a sticking power to basically every line of the film that will be analyzed and quoted for years and will be the new canon. But at the same time, there's gotta be something new ... something we haven't seen before to make the film fresh and not just a rehash. There is likely new phenomena in the Star Wars Universe that we haven't yet discovered that will be revealed. Not just new technology, but a greater and fresher understanding of the Force. What would make it interesting is if supposed revelations are viewed from the biases of the characters themselves instead of presented as objective fact. For instance, you can add a good deal of intrigue if you have a major character misinterpreting the reach and capabilities of the Force or another's abilities. This could be interesting if it's useful to the story, perhaps resulting in a miscalculation with severe even fatal consequences. In other words, we could learn something new about the Force or a new technology by demonstration, not exposition.
     
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