RUMOR The state of the galaxy

This makes it sound like Snoke is much more the face of the First Order than I thought. I had assumed he was very much in the shadows lurking around and mostly just influencing Kylo Ren.

But I guess with a title like Supreme Leader, you're gonna be more of a public figure...

 

I could be wrong but I think that either the puppet master in the shadows or the political manipulator are just way way to much like Sheeve. My hope is that Snoke is not like Sheeve and Ren is not like Vader.

There are more than one style of villain and hope that they pull from different tropes and leadership styles for these too.

 

I think it would be cool if Snoke was some sort of dark, almost a higher power being from beyond that these corrupt senators have some how got in contact with. He promises them all these riches and power in exchange for their allegiance to him. Think of it in a Lucifer in the Bible. It could tie back to Palpatine sending out scouts to beyond the edge of the galaxy as well.

 

My hope is Snoke is a huge, hulking, evilly smart, crush your face with is bare hands, lead by example warlord. I hope he looks more dragon than cobra.
Examples: Saxon leader from the 2005 King Arthur, Megatron from the 80's Transformers cartoon, Mum-ra (after he transformed),

His second in command is Ren a rage fuelled, petty, cruel, reckless, spoiled brat, trying (and failing) to prove he is as great as Vader. This makes him erratic and volatile. He might not be able to rule the Galaxy for 20+ years but he will blow up 2/3rds of it if they don't fall in line.
Examples: Emperor Commodus from Gladiator (AM I NOT MERCIFUL!!!!??), Star Scream from the 80's Transformers cartoon, Jeofrey Baratheon.

 

He is a supreme leader. He's not working in the Shadows. I think there will be plenty of him in this trilogy. Just less in this movie. I will note, however, that Snoke's agenda and his plans and ambitions likely go beyond the First Order.

 

This rumor is pretty good. I like the direction.

Leia is positioned thinking she's in the right and it may cause devastating events to go into motion.

My inner writer is like: *fap fap fap*

 

If this rumors are true. That means that we will see planet Coruscant in TFA. Senat is on Coruscant.
That would be cool. Coruscant is one of my favorite SW planets.

 

Sounds way to political, not too mention a total rehash from Palpatin's era.

I call BS.

 

In Aftermath the New Republic and its Senate were being set up on Chandrila, Mon Mothma's home planet not Coruscant.

 

Shame. Coruscant was perfect capital in my opinion.

 

These rumours sound like a re-hash of the PT. TGFFA would be in pretty much the same state it was by the end of RotS/beginning of ANH if these are true. And what would be the point of that?....

 

Erm, because at the time Empire was released the story overall hadn't reached a natural conclusion. By RotJ, the Saga had. If the rumours above are true, the galaxy has been reset to where it was after RotS during the 30 years since RotJ. To me, that makes little sense.

Enjoy Empire Strikes Back. It's a great film....

 

First, we have to remember that these are just rumors. However, if they are true, we are not likely to see much if any of the Senate in the movie. This is all backstory to set up the the state of the galaxy during the time of TFA. There may some reference to it in the crawl but that will likely in the extent of it. The crawl will likely mention that due to gaining some influence in the Senate Supreme Leader Snoke has managed to secure a treaty that allows tthe First Order to rule in the Outer Rim with an iron fist under the leadership of Snoke's right hand Kylo Ren. It could go on say in some form that General Leia Organa believes that the First Order is out to take control of the entire Galaxy so she is leading a group of Resistance fighters to combat the First Order. There likely would be no mention of the senators want for the opulent lifestyle or there desire for the First Order to win

I don't think this state of the galaxy is the same as after ROTS or during the time of ANH. During that time Palpatine rested complete control of the government and formed a totalitarian Empire which a small group rebelled against. It seems to me this time the Republic is trying to avoid war making treaties with the First Order to avoid it and a segment of the Republic breaking away from the government because they distrust the FO and disagree with the Republic.

 

After RotS, there was a central government (Empire) and a small band of freedom fighters seeking to undermine it. In TFA, there is a central government (New Republic) and a small band of Imperials seeking to undermine it. It is a reversal, and that may play very cleverly; but it is the same situation, from a certain point of view.

My concerns may be unfounded, perhaps I am over-reacting. But I'm looking at this from the POV of the average movie goer: it's still Rebels vs. Imperials. Okay, the names have changed and now the 'good guys' seem to have the upper hand, but its essentially the same situation. Unless:

We need to know about the Senate. We need to know the Republic doesn't see the First Order as a threat and that the FO is believed to be confined to the Outer Rim. We need to know that other politicians think Leia is paranoid regarding the threat of a First Order attack, maybe. That would play well: there's been a lot of talk about "crazy hermit Luke", but what if Leia is considered to be crazy by her peers, too: the old war hero who can't let go of the battle, imagining threats where there are none, demanding an army be maintained during a time of seeming peace? And what if her peers were those who once fought alongside her: what if we see Akbar telling Leia to "let it go".

My point is: if the dynamic is simply rebels and Imperials it will feel like more of the same, no matter what the out-of-movie/EU back-story is, to the average movie goer, and that will kill interest in the ST, imo.

But as I said, I'm probably overreacting....