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SPECULATION The thing that always bothered me in ANH AND TFA

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Sithwalker, Feb 8, 2016.

  1. Sithwalker

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    WHY DON'T YOU EVACUATE THE PLANET WHEN THERE IS A DANGER OF IT BEING DESTROYED? Come on in ANH the Death Star was already charging.. and Starkiller was loading too.. In that case just evacuate the planet.. someone with some military experience perhaps might explain?? Like you're not sure if your guys are going to succeed..
     
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    I see it as captains going down with their ships, making a final stand against the enemy. All the Rebels/Resistance would be doing is running, setting up a new base and then abandoning it all over again ad infinitum. In reality, it may make little sense but onscreen it just adds that extra tension.

    Plus, depending on the timescale, who's to say how long evacuation could take and if there is the possibility of not getting clear of the blast once the planet goes boom-boom?
     
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    You have a GOOD point there.I think that they prefer to fight against them and deal with the danger.Thank GOD we don't see people running like CRAZY and falling in a hole like this...:rolleyes:.
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  4. JediMasterRobert

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    Well, with the Starkiller Base there were some pretty sophisticated Star Wars-style-physics going on with hyperspace, sub-hyperspace, phantom energy, dark energy, quintessence, etc.:


    In short, inhabitants of the Hosnian system, with respect to Episode VII: The Force Awakens, had nearly no time at all to prepare when the First Order fired:

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hosnian_system

    The Death Star (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Star) as it existed in Episode IV: A New Hope, was not nearly as advanced, and perhaps the Rebels could have fled but stood their ground to make their final stand at that point against the Empire.

    And it also made for some dramatic cinema.

    (epic fail)

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    We really do not know how many of Alderaan's population had the time and means to evacuate but it rather happened fast between the arrival of the DS in Alderaan's orbit and its subsequent destruction.

    In the case of Yavin IV it always looked to me they just left a skeleton crew to fight the Death Star. General Willard, commander of the Rebel forces, was not seen again, neither in the war room (with Dodonna and Leia) or the medal ceremony at the end. I'm pretty certain he evacuated.
     
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    People can't evacuate from the mall on Black Friday (the shopping spree the day after thanksgiving where 100s of people die every year) before they are trampled to death. How do you expect them to leave an entire planet?
     
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    Because it is a movie!

    But they did evacuate Hoth.
     
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    because both the rebels and resistance would seriously disrupt their command and control ability. Why would they disrupt that ability during an attack. They stay put because they know it's a win or lose battle. I did see the first order evacuating when the starkiller was imploding. They first order did learn from previous mistakes: "Evacuate? In our moment of victory!" - Tarkin...he died.
     
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    Well, those AT-ATs were pretty fierce looking!


    :eek:______________________________(at-at)_(at-at) __(at-at)___(at-at)__(at-at)____(at-st)___(at-at)____(a-wing)______


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    Love SW but when it tries with hard science fiction it fails. Like in TFA, they fire a massive weapon and destroy multiple planets. But firing this weapon would simply burn the planet's atmosphere.
     
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    I think that Hosnian System would have been much harder to evacuate because Alseraan could have seen Thr a Death Star with its satellites at the minimum but TSKB was on the other side of The Galaxy (Right?) ...
     
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    I consider Star Wars as not at all being intended to be "scientifically accurate" within our present understanding of physics.

    Star Wars is more metaphysical, mystical, fantastical, and poetic than the more realistic hardcore science-fiction out there.

    That's what I meant when I wrote "Star Wars-style-physics": to indicate things which world work there and then, but not necessarily here and now.

    There have been a number articles over the years on "the science of Star Wars," and, I've found them somewhat entertaining, especially Dr. Michio Kaku's engagement of the subject.

    But it sort of misses the point of Star Wars to waste too much critical analysis on that aspect of the saga.

    It's like trying to scientifically explicate The One Ring in The Lord of the Rings or Excalibur in Arthurian lore.

    These, along with Death Stars and Darth Vader's mask, are really intended to be more symbolic and metaphorical.

    Still, I have to say, it was so much fun to learn BB-8 was real!

    (bb-8)

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    [QUOTE="

    Still, I have to say, it was so much fun to learn BB-8 was real!

    (bb-8)

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    More or less a lot of BB8 was cgi.
     
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    the film wouldn't have the fear of everyone perishing.
     
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    re: BB-8 (CGI or not)

    In post-production, some rods were removed "in post" for some puppeteer-actuated poses and actions, but BB-8 was really built in several models (including remote controlled ones) for on-set "practical effect" usage:

    Star Wars: The Force Awakens – The BB8 robot droid is a real machine

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/star-wars-force-awakens-bb8-robot-droid-real-machine-not-puppet-cgi-1496968

    Mark Hamill Says Star Wars: The Force Awakens' BB-8 Is a Prop, Not CGI
    http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12...wars-the-force-awakens-bb-8-is-a-prop-not-cgi

    The adorable new rolling Star Wars droid is not CGI
    http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-04/17/bb8-star-wars-force-awakens-robot-video

    More details:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BB-8

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    I'm glad it's not technically science fiction. Star Wars is 'space opera' or 'space fantasy' more akin to fairy tales, classical mythology and medieval legends. It never has the purpose to be 'scientific'. There might not be a lot of beta science in Star Wars but there sure is a lot of alpha science: humanities rule!
     
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    Of course it is not science fiction, that's why it is bad when it tries.
     
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