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The things I loved and things I didn't.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by stencil, Dec 18, 2015.

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    Feel free to weigh in with your quick thoughts here. These are mine after one viewing.

    The things I loved:
    - Humor: I really think they got the overall tone of the movie correct. I thought it was funny and I did laugh out loud at times, but it wasn't TOO funny like an Avengers movie.
    - Acting: I really think everyone did a fantastic job. Carrie Fisher was probably the weakest of the major characters and I'm trying to say that as a compliment to everyone else, not to insult her. John, Daisy, Oscar, and especially Adam all knocked it out of the park. Harrison of course did a great job. This I think is also a credit to JJ for getting great performances and setting them all up for success.
    - BB8: Seriously that thing is amazing. I didn't think any droid could compare to R2 and C3PO but honestly I thought BB8 actually had more life than C3PO in this movie.
    - I really liked how Snoke was projected to be enormous. I thought that was very clever.

    The things I... didn't love
    - Rey learned the force too quickly with no teaching. This bothered me. It diminishes Kylo Ren.
    - Pacing at the end. The movie just sort of petered out. The destruction of Starkiller base felt like it was paced poorly to me.
    - C3PO: While better than the prequels, his personality just felt a little off.

    I'm still processing but overall I think I really liked this movie. Opinion may change over time.
     
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    Humor was too much and I felt like I was watching super 8 over SW.
     
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    I feel I really liked the movie as well.
    Loved:
    -Humor was good.
    -Acting was fun. Fisher was weaker, agreed, but competent.
    -BB8 = awesome.
    -Snoke big was just fine. Funny how he wasn't an obvious hologram at first. Palpatine was a HUGE head in the OT so it isn't a poor design at all.

    Didn't
    -We have yet to see Reys backstory yet, also, she may be even more powerful, also it was fun to see. Haha
    -Pacing could have been better, but I really enjoyed it.
    -C3PO felt okay to me.

    I think the opinion will get better with the other movies. It will be a very nice trilogy.
     
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    In A New Hope Luke used the force on the falcon by deflecting the laser blasts from the training remote. I buy into Rey being force sensitive. I think her parents were Jedi that Luke taught and I believe they were killed by the Knights Of Ren. There are a lot of parallels with Luke in Rey. I believe Rey was hidden by her parents on Jakku as a hope for the future. I don't believe Rey has repressed memories, I just think she was very very young and only found her powers "awakening" as the movie progressed. The will of the force put her in these situations. It doesn't diminish Kylo at all because as Snoke said, he hasn't completed his training.
     
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    Something I noticed the second time around. Rey is a bad-ass scavenger, and brawler. The film starts out with he repelling through the innards of a Star Destroyer wreckage. She is a mechanic, and a pilot. When she is approached by men attempting to steal the BB-8 unit, she drops them like a bad habit. All before The Force is awakened inside her.

    Fast forward: Rey is originally captured, without issue, by Kylo Ren. I believe it is his use of the Dark Side and her resistance that brings out the Light Side of The Force in Rey. I think these would have been great moments for Rey to hear the ghost of Jedi past, but alas, we're lead to believe that she basically acquires all these skills on her own through The Force.
     
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    Though I liked Rey's acting and various aspects of her character, it was those very things that you mentioned that keep me from completely loving her character as a whole. Rey was just to darn perfect and incredible to be real. She was a bad-ass at EVERYTHING! She was an awesome scavenger, mechanic, warrior, pilot and Force user. She was abandoned as a child on a world that was practically lifeless and that only contained a handful of people and two or three aliens and yet she had no trouble understanding Wookies or Droids. She has incredible feelings and she has a perfect heart and is very sentimental considering her harsh upbringing at the hands of Unkar Plutt. Rey is basically a Disney Princess in a SW movie and the blatant disregard they used on her use of the Force as she learned it on the fly was just too much.
     
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    I agree with you lot; humour was excellent and acting was incredible. Rey is an extraordinarily complex character. Too good at some things, weak at others (eg her understanding of Finn and her capture).
    Something I didn't appreciate was the flashback, which I feel rotten for saying. Either because it struck a chord in me that it wasn't meant to, or it opened too many plot points too quickly, it simply does not sit well with me.
     
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    I fully agree...to me the flashback ("Forceback") felt ranom and took me out of the movie :( .
     
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    Well....
    I loved everything about TFA...fantastic bridge performances by HF and AD made me into a SW fan....I never looked ad SW universe and movies as deep and thoughtfull before....recently I rewatched 1-6 and have to say...I even like Luke now (in RotJ only but still)...and mind me, I avoided and made fun of OT in the past mostly because of his whinning...oh the power of thought...

    I think the movie is funny, fast paced and emmotional....I don't like the character of Finn much because I think he is a weakling, but he features some of the funniest scenes in the movie..."stay calm...atay calm..." hahaha
    I even liked the Rathtars...and Bala Tik is sexy....hihihi...I like the Maz's Castle music :)
     
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    I hated how Rey beat kylo
    --- Double Post Merged, May 18, 2016, Original Post Date: May 18, 2016 ---
    I loved his crossguard lightsaber though
     
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    Oh common...that was a must...he needed that...to be taught a lesson....but don't fret...he will pay her back in kind in 8...she needs to learn she's no Mary Sue :D
     
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    I wish that original scene from the 1st teaser, where it shows Kylo from behind igniting his crossguard saber, would have been put into the film. I thought that was more powerful then Rey and Finn hearing him and then turning to see him. I may be in the minority here, but I also didn't care for his delivery of the line "we're not done yet". It felt off. Too meek. But then when he yelled "Traitor!", it was great! Passionate.
     
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    The scene I hated the most was the one where Han and Leia are talking about Snoke and their son. I thought the dialogue was awkward and that it could have been better. Maybe it was that the subject was so upsetting. I thought the scene where they say goodbye though was very much in character with them. I didn't like that they really left out an explanation of the political situation (one that would have been explained better with the scene of Leia sending off the envoy). It didn't bother me that Rey bested Kylo, as I believe she learned a lot from probing his head, and the fact he was such a mess at that point and he really didn't seem to be trying to kill her, just get the saber and protect himself. I really loved that scene in general. They could have added a bit more about what happened to Poe, instead of just that throw away line to Finn, it seemed rushed. When I first saw it, I thought the rathtar scene was too long. After watching it a few times, I warmed to it. I loved the "Nines" "traitor" scene. I loved every scene Poe was in. And I find Kylo Ren to be a very compelling character. I love Rey, and Finn too. The best thing about the movie is how well they wrote the new characters and made them interesting.
     
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    i wish the igniting scene had been in the film as well, but i had the opposite reaction to the lines. i loved "we're not done yet" (it's so deranged ~ the hell you doing, Ren?), but the "traitor!" line was over the top for me (and too much a repeat of Nines on Takodana).
     
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    I agree, it was a cringe worthy scene. The way she almost chokes on his name. "it was S-Snoooke!" I honestly still hate that name. And, can she not shed a tear for her husband?!
     
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    I got the impression she was pretty bummed at the end, if you mean the death thing.
     
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    Well, Han, her husband of 30ish years has just been murdered by their son, and all she does is hunch over slightly, as if she was trying to hold in a burp. I would expect my wife to fall to the ground, bury her face in her hands in tears, and then scream like Michael Corleone in Godfather 3 when his daughter gets shot at the end.
     
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    She did fall down when it happened, because she felt it. And I thought the whole Rey hug stuff was part of it too. They never really dwelled on grief much in Star Wars. And Leia has always been a character that sucked it up. Her whole home planet blows up and she comforts some kid she just met who lost his foster parents and his mentor he just met. I have to find that quote from her in other media about dwelling on things. Maybe it was the comic book. She was known as the ice princess.
     
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    I'm sure it is canon for her character, but as far as things were portrayed in the film, that was a minor gripe of mine. That and she should have hugged Chewy as he walked out of the Falcon. On a side note, I remember right before the film came out, and I saw a few pictures and posters of Chewbacca growling fiercely, I thought I that I bet that this is from the scene right after Han is killed, as I had read the MSW leaked outline as well.
     
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    What I loved:

    - Characters (especially Rey and Kylo Ren)
    - Acting (nice dialogs, it felt natural)
    - Good action scenes
    - Many visual stunning shots
    - The lightsaber fight (my second favorite in the saga)
    - The OT-Feel
    - LUKE SKYWALKER IS BACK

    What I didn´t like that much:

    - Too much fan service
    - Too little world building
    - Rathtar scene
    - Pacing got chaotic toward the ending
    - A few parts of the story, especially the story arc between Han and his son. It felt rushed.

    The humor is something... I can´t decide. Almost every gag was funny but sometimes it was too much.

    In general, I enjoyed TFA a lot. It´s a really good start for a new trilogy.
     
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