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The Things You Like Least About Every Star Wars Film

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by Bargwill Tomder, Jan 4, 2017.

  1. Bargwill Tomder

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    Phantom Menace: Cartoonishness, Jake Lloyd, Two-headed announcer, Jar Jar, bad CGI, horrible Yoda

    Attack of the Clones: Yoda fighting doesn't make sense, whiny Annakin, cartoonishness, flying R2!

    Revenge of the Sith: Love story doesn't make sense, Vader "Noooo", Grievous

    Rogue One: CGI Tarkin and Leia (I view them more as "not 100% finished" than a true dislike), jumping around at start of movie

    ***Note: For my purposes I am considering the non-SE versions of the OT...

    A New Hope: time stretching and lack of people damage in garbage chute, complete lack of emotion in Leia following Alderaan destruction, tractor beam inconsistency

    Empire Strikes Back: Very little about that movie bugs me, although Amanaman pointed out the cheesy Emperor and Bespin lack of spaciousness, and I have to agree.

    Return of the Jedi: Gamorrheans, silliness of Ewoks

    Force Awakens: Mary Sue aspect, seeing explosion in sky, mess of scientific problems associated with Starkiller base, Snoke, general lack of subtlety
     
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    I don't think you are fair in your rating on TESB. You took the worst things from certain versions of the films like the horrible CGI Yoda from TPM to the Vader ''Nooo'' from the blue ray but how about the fake looking Wampa from the original TESB or the dark claustrophobic Bespin from the original movie? And believe me, if you want to talk about something aweful, it really can't get worst than this:
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    I can't believe you would dislike the Leia and Tarkin from RO which looked excellent but would say nothing about this horrible abomination.
     
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    I have to say, I agree with you. I can let the Wampa slide (never really thought about that) and Bespin looks kinda Flash Gordon which is both appropriate and ridiculous in a SW film (one of the few things I prefer about the SE is that Bespin looks way better), but the weird-ass emperor is definitely a weakness. As far as Leia and Tarkin, I agree with the people who say they are in the uncanny valley, but I also thought they didn't detract much from the film and I would certainly leave them in there. My preference is that they clean them up a bit before the blu-ray.

    Edited the original post to clarify and reflect these changes.

    Also, while I severely dislike all versions of Yoda in the PT, the one I hate the most is the original puppet version in TPM, as opposed to the revised CGI version, which is infinitely more tolerable.
     
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    Yes that puppet was indeed hideous!
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    I liked it all.

    Even Jar Jar, even the CGI, it's a whole story not pick and chose.
     
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    Star Wars (Ok Episode IV) - Ponda Baba's blood on his arm. Cauterized, it should have been. (I don't like a lot of the changes in the Special Edition, but that's another tale)
    The Empire Strikes Back - They should have implied that there was time past some way. Even with a few lines. We know it wasn't hours. I don't mean fill it in, but one line would have helped. Like when the MF was coming into Cloud City ("I thought we would never get here, it's been weeks, I'm glad C-3PO has an off switch.") or Luke saying something to Yoda. ("After days of this, I am getting used to this rootleaf.") You know, something.

    Return of the Jedi- That whole scene on the bridge. It's the OT version of the "Sand" scene in AOTC. It's a necessary scene, but it could have been done differently, but then weird dialogue isn't an uncommon theme in the Star Wars universe. It's just so well, weird. The my father has it, and my sister has it, that was cool, but it was well, weird.

    The Phantom Menace. Jar Jar really wasn't that bad, but well, he could have been toned down a bit. I wish Ani was older, or at least leave out the creepy "Are you an angel" bit. He's 9 and he is already lusting for a 14 year old. That ain't right. Not going to get into Yoda, 30 years between TPM and Empire and it's possible he had some weird skin disease or some other aging process we didn't know about.

    Attack of the Clones. I think it might be easier to say what I like about it, the list would be shorter. There are some bits of it I do like, but well a lot I don't.

    Revenge of the Sith. Too much staring out the window. Lost the will to live? You got two kids there! Isn't that reason to live? Geez!

    The Force Awakens. They took stuff out that should have been left in. People were really confused about what the First Order was, how the Resistance figured into the Republic, how Poe survived, Kylo Ren on the MF, and Unker getting his arm ripped off in the movie would have been epic. Maybe show something about Rey's little device she was learning stuff on like piloting and languages. We shouldn't have had to depend on outside stuff to understand this movie. When we saw the first movie (Episode IV), there wasn't a lot of questions except for how long was Darth Vader spinning through space, why didn't Chewie get a medal, and did they have to leave Yavin 4 because obviously the Empire knew about it by that time? Some questions, sure, it makes you want the next one, but I didn't think we needed so many of them.

    Rogue One - C3PO and R2-D2. Would have rather had them cameo on the ship, rather than at Yavin 4 because now I have questions. And here it comes back to PONDA BABA and Dr. Evazan. I am guessing they were on their way to Mos Eisley when they ran into our heroes? That place blew up!
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    On the Bespin not looking spacious. The SE actually did help that, giving windows and such. Other than that, I just figured it was a structure on a gas planet, like an apartment building in a big city or whatever.
     
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    TPM - Dialogue, some stiff acting and politics.

    AOTC - CGI overkill, droid factory scene and most of the love story.

    ROTS - The final duel too blazing fast and crazy twirling. Anakin in the suit too fast.

    ANH - Honestly I've never liked the Cantina scene much. I don't know why.

    TESB - The first probably 30 minutes is too long. I know why the Wampa scene is there but it takes too long to set up and get going. The rest of the movie is awesome.

    ROTJ - Need Wookies instead if Ewoks.

    TFA - The pacing is too fast. But I love the movie.

    ROGUE ONE - Mostly Cassians character. I found him kinda dull.
     
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    Ha Ha I agree with your points but I had to change my mindset and concentrate to stop reading your post in a Yoda voice after your Ponda Baba comment of '' Ponda Baba's blood on his arm. Cauterized, it should have been.''
     
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    On purpose, that I did.
     
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    Alright, let's do this:

    TPM: The lack of screentime/agency for Obi Wan

    AotC: The boring love story (I know, not an original complaint by any means)

    RotS: The weird attempts at Battle Droid humor. They were at least somewhat serious in TPM, they're bumbling idiots in RotS

    RO: The Jedha stuff before Jyn lands. Once she's there it's fine, but the stuff before her was unnecessary spelling stuff out

    ANH: I don't hate the lightsaber fight, but I wish Vader had been more aggressive

    TES: I'm sorry, I just really don't care for the Dagobah stuff

    RotJ: Again, Dagobah. Sorry, Yoda.

    TFA: Ugh, Rathtars. Also, just the lack of context. I appreciate not being overburdened with politics, but this was an overcorrection for sure.
     
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    Very Wise, I see you are. :)
     
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    TPM: Acting, script, the depiction of the jedi (instead of misterious warriors, they are celebrities living litearlly in the middle of the Republic and do nothing outside of sitting in circles all day), midichlorians (Jar-jar is actually one of the smaller problems in the movie imo).

    AOTC: Acting, CGI, Anakin's character, the love story, the whole clone army story (the whole Syfo Dias story feels like it was thrown in the last minute, and the Republic is like "Oh a random army, well lets just use it with no questions whatsoever"), Yoda jumping like a flea and fighting with a lightsaber, The moral of the jedi regarding the clone army (human beings are litearlly cloned and gene- manipulated for killing and living a shorter life just to fulfill bizarre capitalistic needs and the jedi have nothing to say about it)

    ROTS: Acting, CGI, The character of Grievous, Anakin's turn, lack of context, 2nd half way too rushed, The "I have the high ground scene" along with the overlong duel

    ANH: The trash compactor scene

    ESB: Nothing really bugs me at all. An almost perfect movie

    ROTJ: Too long Jabba scene, Ewoks defeating the stormtroopers


    R1: The Bor Gullet scene leads into nothing, Wanted to see more about the characters, too many grenades

    TFA: The name "Supreme Leader Snoke", Hux's character, Maz's character, Finn acting like an American teenager, Starkiller base, Too much comedy
     
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    Phantom; they made Obi kinda boring and he whined quite a bit.

    Clones; Anakin.

    Sith; why did the fight on Mustafar take soooo long. All emotional value was lost by the time it was done.

    Rogue One; the jumping around at the beginning.

    Hope; can I count the edits? Because what Lucas did to the scenes on Tatooine really bothers me.

    Empire; unlike the rest of the OT, Empire just can't work as a stand alone film (still the best though).

    Jedi; Boba was set up as this bad ass bounty hunter, yet he went out like a punk.

    Awakens; Poe was underdeveloped as a character. We got to see Rey and Finn's arcs, but nothing with Poe.
     
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    Largely because Poe wasn't supposed to have an arc, he was supposed to die in the escape with Finn but JJ really liked Isaac's performance and kept him in
     
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    TPM: Racism (Jar Jar, Watto, Neimodians etc etc.) and comedy......bad comedy.
    AOTC: Dialogue..........all of it.
    ROTS: Anakin's turn and dialogue supporting it. ROTS was definitely my biggest SW disappointment ever.
    RO: Badly executed cameos: look who's there! Docter Evazan! There is C3PO.......wave! Princess Leia........hope.
    ANH: Luke's miraculous starfighter stardom.
    ESB: Lando with Han's clothes and dogman in the falcon
    ROTS: Jabba's palace scenes (boring, bad pacing, slime, too dark)
    TFA: Captain Phasma (A dull character who shouldn't have been in the movie in the first place. A none character who was rightfully deposed in the garbage bin, for good reason!)
     
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    When they end :(
     
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    Yeah. Just make them speak another language that is so bizarre it doesn't need an accent. Subtitles are fine! Always sensitive to the racism, I am.(yoda 2)
     
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    Episode 1: Time Wasting: Queen Amidala goes to Coruscant (via Tatooine) then goes back to Naboo, wasting 2 hours of unneccesary screentime.
    Episode 2: Dialogue: "I hate it when he does that", "Good call my young padawan", "Sand, it's coarse, irritating and gets everywhere".
    Episode 3: Padmé. She is reduced to being a vacuuous background character and seems to have lost most of her intellect and intelligence during her pregnancy.
    Episode 4: Luke: Whiney brat blows up the Death Star with his first lucky shot - despite it being his first ever mission, in his first ever spaceship.
    Episode 5: Giant space slugs (and mynocks) living inside asteroids. For what application is a carbon freeze chamber actually used for?!
    Episode 6: 'Muppet Show In Space' feeling at times....
    Episode 7: A general feeling of deja vu, feeling ripped off and conned into rewatching ANH dressed in new clothes.
    Rogue One: Overall boring, until the last half hour.

    ;)
     
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    I: Obi-Wan underdeveloped. Anakin, too young.
    II: Most of it. Anakin, dialogues, romance, comedy, all bad to mediocre. Again, Obi-Wan underdeveloped.
    III: Anakin's turn (should have been in more than 1 flim, subtle, maybe double agent for a while). Anakin in DV suit (should have been left out of the movie entirely). Obi-Wan's treatment of Anakin.
    R1: The beginning is confusing, going from planet to planet. Rebellion is too fragile and disorganized for being so close to IV.
    IV: Blood on severed arm, Luke gets to be prominent in the mission for no reason at all. The duel between Obi and Vader (since it couldn't be more dynamic, I'd have avoided it and replaced it with a conversation+force duel+suicide).
    IV: The beginning is a bit slow.
    VI: Ewoks beating stormtroopers. Boba Fett, all of him.
    VII: Too fast. Lack of background for some events. Starkiller base.
     
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