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SPECULATION The Villains of Episode 7

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by HarryShoulders, Oct 1, 2014.

  1. HarryShoulders

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    Reading on assumes you are aware of the recent potential spoiler information discussed within the last 48 hrs on this site.









    Now that Von Sydow has been rumored/slated to play old man cyborg with a peg leg and not Darth Plagueis, etc. (at this point -seems to be a waste of a cool voice), let's re-examine the evil doers and their motivations?.....

    I must admit, with the last pot stirring of the rumors my expectations of how things play out has changed quite a bit. I'm still expecting Driver to be the predominant bad guy (and Han/Leia's kid) thru Episode 9, however, I don't feel he will turn until the end of 7 or in 8. Kyle said the recent lifted picture shows Solo w/ Driver pointing his blaster at Luke. The best motivation for Driver's character would be revenge after witnessing the death of his father...or perhaps the death of his mother. Maybe Leia was on the XYZ ship/moon that was destroyed in the scene King mentioned outside of the Cantina? and Luke failed to act resulting in resentment from the father and son. IDK, for all we know Driver will be the good guy.....

    Who does that leave for the main antagonists:
    Andy Serkis: I don't believe for a moment he is a cameo considering his mocap creds
    Christie: I am not sold on her Stormtrooper command or her being a compelling villain, but she is good on GOT
    Lupita: Again, per Kyle, believed to be a political rival to Leia and perhaps leadership for another Rebellion -- this time to oust the new overreaching Alliance? and one of the responsible parties in her death.
    Mystery casting/masked character: for a larger villain overseeing Driver's character and/or Boba Fettesque rival for Oscar Issac/Boyega

    Thoughts?
     
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    I agree with you mostly. I will say having the new rebels trying to rebel from the alliance is straight out of Legacy of the force. From the Former EU. Now known as legends.
    with the Adam Driver / Jacen Solo parallel and him going possibly to the dark side. I don't see them following that new rebellion against the alliance (legacy series of EU).
    They may use some elements of the EU but that is a story already told by others I think that is too close and I would not consider it an original story. Which is what they are supposed to be making. But other wise I likethe other parts of your theory
     
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    Now the big question is...

    Who is the Grave Robber?
     
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    that's the question on my mind! GR is obviously under cover, or else why wear the mask? maybe Driver is Solo's child, learns the ways of the force from uncle Luke, and secretly turns to the dark side? there's definitely a sense of admiration while holding Vader's helmet, and even a sense of imitating in wearing the mask/having a false hand. maybe Driver wants to hold the mantle that his maternal grandfather had as Lord of the Sith. maybe he feels that since Vader was the chosen one that he is also equally important (or at least self important). obviously this is all pure speculation, but i wouldn't be against Driver being a bit of a double agent. it fits with his being dressed in an X-wing pilot outfit, anyway. maybe one of the people in the image of the pig towing the X-wing is actually Driver.
     
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    Wow....i am liking the leaked photos.
    I'm also thinking the grave robber is driver. If he is a jedi maybe he can mask his dark side and is hhiding in plain sight. The whole Luke and Han squaring off with a third party ( possibly Driver) Luke realizes Driver is the villain in the mask and Luke goes to attack him, but Han may see this as Luke going after his boy and not understand it. He tries to intervene and is killed in the fight. Thus driving Driver further towards the dark side. And in his anger blasts Luke but in pops Daisy and she has to
    Fend off Driver long enough for Boyega to come and recover Luke and get on the ship........i would go on but it'sjust my mind is going a 100 miles an hour,but that is basically my theory on where this is going.
    WOW I am really ready to see this movie!
     
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    I'm thinking it will go down similarly.
     
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    If that develops as a scene it mirrors in intensity one of the only scenes in the PT that I liked - YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!!
     
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    Paging resident Egyptologists! What were the theories/old wive's tales regarding robbing graves of god-like princes and such? There may be a parallel here. No way your simple Shaggy looking ass just steals sith artifacts without inadvertently picking up the worst kind of joojoo imaginable. Perhaps that's what starts Driver's transformation. He wakes the Ancient Fear and gets way more than he bargained for. Matter of fact wouldnt sith artifacts be super dangerous for the same reason? I can't believe Luke wouuldn't have made damn sure ole daddy didn't burn entirely to nothing but ash, costume and all. That part I'm calling bantha poodoo on. It's like Osama. Special Forces got him but dumped the small nothingness of what was left into the ocean. So he could never become more powerful in death than he was in life. Give the radicals squat to rally around.
     
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    I saw a concept pic in which Driver's character had a bullwhip too. And he doesn't seem to like snakes.

    Just an aside as I've been sitting in a bar all day and drinking beer and replying to this thread - Because Star Wars. This is Star Wars Day for me. Anyway, how cool is all this stuff? How awesome is it to be sitting here in 2014 and looking at possible artwork from the next, new Star Wars movie? Cheers to this.
     
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    Amen, brother!
     
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    So back to you idea. Yeah - you could definitely pick up some bad bad juju Maclunkey around with Sith artifacts. But is that what he's messing with or is it all Skywalker family heirlooms?
     
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    More than likely Sith artifacts. Vader's cap may just be one of these.
     
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    Speaking of - shouldn't there be a skull in that puppy? Or did he pull an Obi-Wan/Yoda?
     
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    Based off of my speculation and the one semi-insider I have, this is what I say. Sith and Jedi artifacts, Driver has/had a master who got him into it but he overthrows/threw him.

    Most cultures have a special curse for grave robbers, I mean we have similar beliefs today where a part of the spirit may live on in a treasured object. But I think dark side corruption and treasure hunting are both symptoms of something else. That else being a powerful dark side entity that wishes to use Driver as a tool for its own end
     
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    I'm assuming he pulled an Obi-Wan/Yoda since he turned into a Force ghost, but then again, Qui-Gon didn't. Maybe your ghost can go on once you've been burned or something.
     
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    i always thought he pulled an Obi/Yoda, seeing as to how we see his ghost. Luke was probably just burning what was left of his robotic body, which probably doesn't burn very well... unless, of course, it was run on fossil fuels. that's pretty diabolical and he was a Sith...
     
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    Qui-Gon hadn't fully learned how to do it, hence he can't manifest like the others
     
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    Ah okay.
     
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    -Vader's dad

    -An aristocrat under the influence of something darker

    -The Inquisitors

    -Asajj Ventress

    -MVS as Kanaan turned evil

    -Luke or Leia

    -Thrawn

    -Cloned Sheev Palpatine

    -Mystery baddie mocapped by Sirkis and voiced by a megaton surprise actor
     
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    Well Devin of badass just said he got a new scoop that will blow us away in who is playing the villain.
     
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