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SPECULATION The Virgin twist theory

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by MarsPhoenix, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. MarsPhoenix

    MarsPhoenix Sith Psychiatrist

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    Ok.... this theory will certainly bring me my record of "dislike" and "fail" ratings... I had to get it out of my radar.

    Let's start by numbers:

    Harrisson Ford was born in 1942
    Carrie Fisher in 1956
    Mark Hamill in 1951

    Return of the Jedi in 1983

    Domnhall Gleeson was born in 1983
    Adam Driver in 1983
    Daisy Ridley in 1992

    Ok, my theory lies on the fact that these 3 characters are portraying our original heroes' kids. That is not yet a fact, but strong rumors suggest so.

    As you can see, there is kind of a significant age difference between Daisy and Adam/Domnhall. And Daisy looks even younger than her actual age, so if Leia and Han's daughter... if she is, must be a kid the couple had late in there lives (Han in his fifties, Leia, closing in on her forties).

    I am talking of experience here (I have 2 sons that are 17 years apart), normally when there is that kid of a gap in between two children, it's because something happened:

    - The first one wasn't expected, the second one comes when the couple, job and family is stabilized.
    - The first one was expected, but was at the time and context, enough for the couple to manage and when everything sort of stabilized, they went for another one.
    - A seperation, 2 kids from 2 different relations
    - A reconstructed family

    Well, you probably understand where I am going with that...

    I discard Domnhall Gleeson. I just don't see him playing Han or Leia's son. I strongly believed he was playing a Young Palpatine (because of the stron ressemblance), but I can buy the fact that he is somehow Luke's son.

    Another theory I liked was the fact that Rey was Luke's daughter, abandoned but looked upon by an old friend of Luke or even Han Solo... OR, that Rey's mother was killed with her still in her wombs, Luke unaware of that fact leaves Tatooine forever... For the moment, I'll discard this theory as well...

    Here's a new theory.

    The character portrayed by Adam Driver (Kylo Ren?) and Rey are Leia and Han's children. But there is a twist...

    They are not from the same Father/Mother...

    One theory could be that Kylo Ren is the result of a Post-ROTJ passion between Leia and Han... and then, long after their Relationship is over, Rey is born... either from a Relationship between Han and another woman or Leia and another man.

    My theory is that, after the event of ROTJ, THE FORCE has struck a Virgin birth again. This time, with Leia Organa as the host. She gives birth to a son. She knows, somehow that Han isn't the father. That fact, when presented to Han, ended their Relationship and they parted ways.

    Han, then (or Leia) has a child (Rey) years later.

    Maybe that is why, Kylo Ren, self tought Jedi/Sith, goes in a quest to find his origins, and is dragged towards Darth Plagueis' tomb. He learns somehow the story of the Son of Suns, the Chosen One that was created by the Force itself... maybe he thinks he is part of the prophecy...

    So here, it is now out :)
     
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  2. It's a Trap !

    It's a Trap ! Rebelscum

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    A long time ago in a galaxy far far away ..........
     
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    Kylo Samurai Rebel General

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    I like this theory! It would also have Kylo Ren's arc mirror that of Anakin's. Maybe THAT'S why Kylo was staring at Vader's helmet; in a world where Kylo has almost no one to look to, he finds solace in knowing that at least one person has gone through his own struggle. This could set up an interesting storyline in episodes VIII and IX.
     
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    Darth Lexor Kai General of the Future Folk

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    so Han was all like... "you been screwing the blue milk man"! and the son of the force finds out his begining and gets a big head. interesting. thought. there is always the chance they could flip the whole thing on its head and say that hes actually a good guy who got into the wrong crowd. If it was your son would you defend him? and then what about Han...does he ever care to find out the truth... what happens next?
     
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    " you been screwing the blue milk man "

    You just won the internet !
     
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    Well, I guess his first reflex would be to push him back to his old self. Maybe even to have bad feelings for Luke...
    Hey, he's the one that put this Force thing in Leia's mind. He might even think he's a little responsible for that episode.

    30 years has passed, Han is still a little bitter about all that, Leia & Luke. Only at the very end, he understands and make the ultimate sacrifice to save Luke and the kids.

    Now, is Rey also Force sensitive not being Leia's daughter?

    Maybe Finn is the one that shows Jedi powers in Episode VII but Luke, having make the promess to protect Rey takes both Finn and Rey as his padawans. Finn as the strongest candidate, Rey as a force sensitive not fully aware of her potential... and at the end of the story arc (episode IX), somehow, Rey comes out as the most powerful Jedi of the bunch facing the then powerful Sith Lord/Dark Jedi Kylo Ren.
     
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    Lando gets choked for betraying Han.
     
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    Cmdr. Ed Straker Rebel Official

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    No, I like your thread, it's a good and well thought approach.
    Maybe Luke is the father of Rey, would like to see a offspring from Luke, not only Han and Leia should have kid's.
     
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    Well Ben is his eu son, is there room for him?
     
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    Well, all in all, it's not that bad of theory, and I only see one dislike as of yet. (not from me)

    I don't particularly buy it for the film series, nor do I feel Disney would go that route. Too complex for the layperson. Anyways, points for the thought and a certain level of originality behind it.
     
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    Would be pretty cool. I like your post. I think the idea is a perfect reason for Han and Leia to be distant or not together. Its tough to imagine another virgin birth story UNLESS…they explain why it happened or how it happened. If they do that, im ok with it.
     
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