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The Visual Poetry Thread - Because there's always one :)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Jayson, Dec 22, 2019.

  1. Meister Yoda

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    So we know that in the first one Obi Wan is lying and it is mirrored so does that mean Palpatine is telling the truth?
     
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    White lie vs black truth? Or... nobody can say whether Palpatine is being truthful ;)
     
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    One bolt of lightning from above signifying a heavenly origin and one from below signifying something the polar opposite.I know of one other comparison. DIO appears at the top of the stairs- DIO represents God, Diavolo appears at the bottom of the stairs- Diavolo represents the Devil. Both of their positioning reveals something of their personality and their role in the narrative.

    DIO wants to rule the world and receive the worship and adulation of others while Diavolo rules the underworld and is forever skulking in darkness.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Nice work. I know there was a documentary about the structural engineer who worked on this project. One Peter Rice. His impact on architecture and design cannot be overstated.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0007zg7
     
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    Humanity has been fascinated with vertical opposites for a long time.
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    ;)

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    When we first see her, Jannah tracks the sky like that guy on Yavin in ANH.

    Rey holds up the dagger to look for the wayfinder’s location, we see a p.o.v. shot, then we hear the screeching of an orbak (space horse) - calling to mind Luke looking at the banthas in a p.o.v. shot and being surprised by the screeching sandperson in ANH.

    In one of the examples of how the movie reflects back on itself/the first half foreshadows the final half, Rey uncovers the Sith dagger from under sand, and later sends the Jedi lightsabers into the sand...

    Travelling down narrow passages is a visual motif repeated through the movie - whether the chase on Pasaana, the low ‘ceiling’ on the way in to the Sith Citadel and the narrow entrance to the throne chamber, or the way into the DS II for Rey on her skimmer on Kef Bir.

    Lando and Chewie rescuing Finn and Jannah from the command ship is a mixture of the Star Destroyer’s vertical descent towards destruction in RoTJ and a re-orientated version of the rescue of Luke from below Cloud City.
     
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    Nice one!

    This one happens twice actually. Rey is saved from Kylo in much the same method. I'm starting to wonder if there's a doubling taking place in this film where we see similar things twice through. I'm not sure. I just know that there's at least a few that show up twice.

    I'm looking forward to watching again, but I'm almost positive that this film runs a narrow set of channels and progressively tighter, closer, and darker in shots until the finale around where Palps unloads his lightening storm and we start pushing more toward wider shots.
    I need to see it again to track that all, but there's something akin to this happening through the film.

    I believe this is yet another reason they went with the Tatooine ending - its wide open sky is the antithesis to the closed channels that took place during the entire film, visually giving a metaphor of the pressure felt upon our heroes.

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    I don't know if this was posted before.

     
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    Wonderful!

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    This may seem a little random, but ...

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    In RoTS, the buzz droids end up with Anakin Skywalker blasting a wing off Obi-Wan's ship. Then Artoo uses electricity to disable the droid that clambers onto Anakin's ship.

    In TRoS, Kylo Ren's TIE Whisper features three vertical red lights, very reminscent of the buzz droids. Rey (later Skywalker ;)) slashes the wing of the ship, which causes the ship to crash, and in the following scene Rey uses Force Lightning as she tries to stop the transport leaving.

    It just really feels like a lot of the same/similar elements all jumbled up. I like it anyway. :)
     
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    The whole ending sequence on Tatooine was a perfect way to close the circle where all of that begun.
     
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    It should have ended on Naboo!

    (r2-d2)
     
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    Why Naboo?

    Rey, Luke or Leia has almost zero connection to that Planet.

    If you've had said Ach To, Endor or Yavin IV ok, but Naboo...
     
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    Well I wasn't really being totally serious with my suggestion. But I can think of reasons...

    1. It's where the Saga began in TPM, so it would 'bookend' the nine films. It claims to be the conclusion of the whole saga, but let's face it, overall it's really just preoccupied with the OT with the occasional token gesture to the PT. The poetic visual symmetry mirrors ANH, not the PT.

    2. Luke and Leia's mother was from Naboo - ending the saga with Rey there could have created a kind of maternal connection and lineage in a series of films which has mainly been all about paternal lineage.

    3. Palapatine is also from Naboo - and he is Rey's Grandfather. So we definitely can't say she has 'zero connection' (of course I also get that is maybe not a lineage she wants to be proud of!)

    Some of the links may be a bit tenuous for sure. But so is Rey's link to Tatooine - she has no real connection to that world either. She'd never been before.

    Ach To? I dunno... maybe. But only if they went the route of mainly treating the ST as a self-contained trilogy, but they didn't (personally I may have preferred it if they had!).

    The others make far less sense than Naboo - or even Tatooine! Yavin is irrelevant really - it's just a location, the place the rebel base happened to be. Like Hoth but with trees. Endor is similar. It's the location of where they happen to be at the end of ROTJ. There's no reason for Rey to go there.
     
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    You just gave the most reasonable answer on why Naboo is not a good choice:
    The lair of Palpatine.
    Rey doesn't wants to be linked to the Palpatine family. She makes her choice in the end of movie: I wanna be a Skywalker. That's why Tatooine makes much more sense and I think it was the best choice for the finale.
     
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    where is that?
     
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