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The WORST thing that could happen in TLJ

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by GotTheSilver, Apr 13, 2017.

  1. GotTheSilver

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    In your view, what is the worst thing that could happen in The Last Jedi? I don't mean the worst thing that could happen to a character, such as Rey finding out her family is dead and then losing a limb or two. I mean something that would make you really disappointed in the movie.

    For me, about the worst thing that could happen is that we get to see all of the Knights of Ren fighting together in a single battle, but then all of them (except Kylo) get killed rather easily, possibly by a single opponent (ahem, Luke). This would really disappoint me, but I feel like we have seen things like this in Star Wars movies before. The KOR are built up in my mind as being really tough bad guys. If they get taken out rather quickly and easily, I will be really disappointed.

    What would disappoint you? (not that I am wanting to dwell on the negative, because I expect TLJ to be a great movie!)

    Added 'spoiler' prefix -Bosc
     
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    I would be very disappointed if the KOR were made out be these really formidable bad guys so much so that they killed Luke and turned Rey to the dark side and Reylo was born.
     
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    I'd be MORE disappointed if the newest MSW report is accurate and they aren't in the film at all.

    Nor is Luke having a lightsaber fight. (although it was originally MSW who reported there WAS a fight between Luke/Rey and KOR on Ach-to - but now they have backtracked)

    The worst thing that could happen? She's Random.

    Not saying she has to be Skywalker/Solo (though that is my preference) but that she is at least somebody.

    A Kenobi. A palpatine. A clone or Force produced person, like Anakin.

    There has been way too much build-up on film (and even morseo off of it by actors/directors/LFL) of who her family is...if she truly is completely random and super powerful with the Force, able to do a mind-trick, able to do a Force-pull, an expert pilot, and able to beat the trained grandson of Darth Vader with a lightsaber (albeit injured)....and she's just a random nobody, just a scavenger...

    Then it really is all just girl-power nonsense and they've cheapened SW and the Force.
     
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    My greatest concern is that TLJ will mirror ESB too much. I understand that it will be a Star Wars movie and it will therefore have some elements that will remind us of previous movies. Although I enjoyed TFA (because it gave us some interesting new characters), its story was very similar to the story of ANH.
     
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    I'm going in with an open mind, most people will hate the film just because of what they want doesn't necessarily play out on film. In RJ I trust.
     
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    All of copies of scenes or film's cut get destroyed, the whole cast and crew dies off, all the plans for sets disappear and are never found, the film's script vanishes and all this happens just before the film is supposed to premiere, meaning they have to effectively restart the whole production. That'd be pretty bad. :p
     
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    1- NC-17 rated movie with an extended love scene with Maz and Chewie.

    2- Darth Plagueis- still could be a great film but I would have to eat Jabba sized amounts of crow.

    3- Snoke being the BBE- Sure it could happen he would be awesome but I really like Kylo as a villain I think Snoke is a part of his rise.

    4- Abandoning the title Jedi.

    5- Any concept of "grey" jedi
     
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    Hayden "Anakin" Christensen force ghost.

    Please no.

    Or a cgi Yoda force ghost.
     
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    To me, that's pretty much the best choice they could make, regarding Rey's origins. And that's because...

    I think that the "need" for her to "be somebody" pretty much contradicts the core narrative that SW established so far: that when you start with being somebody, you end up rotten (Anakin, Ben), while the hero is the "underdog" who has to make somebody out of her/himself.

    Well, being somewhat skilled in melee fighting is either a consequence of her training, of being on Jakku on her own, or both.. and - like the piloting skills - it doesn't necessarily has anything to do with the Force: she is pretty much as attuned to the Force as Luke was in ANH (although Rey gets there a little more progressively than Luke). As for the fight with Kylo Ren, you said it yourself: he was injured, twice - and even more emotionally messed up than usual, I might add, so...

    ...this wouldn't be true at all :)
    (I wanted to address this not to polemize, but rather cause I always marvel at how two people can have completely different interpretations of the exact same things)

    As for the topic at hand... it's hard for me to say, because for every bad/disappointing thing I can come up with, I can also imagine a way to write so that it (more or less) works. I guess I'd be disappointed if they failed to deliver on the (numerous) pay off that were set up in TFA or - on the other hand - if they were too concerned with pay offs and didn't really set up IX properly. Both things happen quite frequentely with sequels (there are examples of both in "The Matrix" and The Middle Earth franchise) - but Johnson knows his stuff, so I guess I'm just not particularly worried.
     
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    Mesa called Jar Jar Binks
     
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    Finn not being force sensitive, there was too much in Force Awakens that it will seem stupid to change it.

    Leia not being in it enough and not showing any force anything

    Lando not being in it

    Rey being more perfect

    Too much forced humor (like Han's bowcaster stuff in TFA)

    Rey being a Skywalker (especially that Anakin-reincarantion theory)

    Domhnall Gleeson being wasted again

    If they don't redeem Phasma
     
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    Actually, I think like 80% of that is confirmed dude!

    Lando isn't in it. Finn isn't going to be Force sensitive. Leia probably won't show much Force stuff, other than telepathy, Rey is likely a Skywalker, and Hux sucks. He's a stupid characturer of a Nazi commander, not an actual threat like Tarkin was. (one of my problems with TFA)

    Phasma has a chance at redemption, from the leaks. Not sure if there is "forced" humor, that might be done away with.

    Still...sounds like if the rumors are true you won't like it much.
     
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    Sith spells

    Witches

    Force-wielding demigods (a la Bendu)
     
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    I didn't mean her being famous or "aware" of some notoriety...I meant more of her having a background of a strong in the force family. Because she is able to do too much, too soon.

    Luke could barley beat a practice droid (once) with a lightsaber in ANH. And he'd spent time with Ben already.
    At the tail end of the film, he trusts the force once, to enhance a skill he already had - piloting. (and, we learn...that's because the Force is strong in his family. He has it, his father has it, etc...) Again, with Force ghost Ben guiding him.

    He couldn't do a Force pull till ESB, and he couldn't do a mind trick (even though he saw Ben do one and Rey didn't even know Jedi were real a DAY before) until ROTJ.

    To say that "she got there a little more progressively than Luke" is a gross understatement.

    She is maybe one week from even having met Finn when all this happens...depending on travel time from Jakku to Takkonda. It's quite ridiculous if her family isn't strong in the Force...and contradicts the prior 6 films. And no, Luke wasn't just a "random person who trusted the Force" as much as JJ wanted to say he was...and it did appear so in ANH...because GL deepened and clarified all that in the next 5 films.

    She also speaks droid and Wookie.

    And is better with the Falcon than Han.

    It's all a bit much really, if she is just truly Random.

    But those, are just my 2 cents. Nobody has to spend them. :D:D:D
     
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    That the murdering, defensless old man killing Kylo Ren is the only legacy child of my childhood heros Luke and Leia Skywalker.

    Go Rey Solowalker! =]
     
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    Nothing has been definitively said on Finn, sadly I know you are right about Leia, I don't think there is anything definitive on Rey Skywalker yet, because Billy Dee said Lando isn't in it I know suspect he will be, Hux aside I like Domhnall and hope he at least has some more scenes of him not being Kylo's Vhlor.
     
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    Reylo. :mad:



    Hands down.

    :D
     
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    I fear only one thing - that TLJ will be a clone of TESB. It seems we'll have land battle with AT-AT-like walkers which will be defeated by flying vehicles, Rey being taught by Luke (like Luke was by Yoda) and Resistance on the run (like Rebels after Yavin IV) and probably revealing Rey's family tree. I just don't buy this whole "inspiration", and TFA was one huge slap in the face because of it. I fear they just realised they can almost copy original trilogy, change it only slightly, mask old characters and planets by giving them new form and name and still make enormous profit because a lot of people will buy the tickets and then a lot of people will accept their "inspiration"excuses.
    I'd be also greatly disappointed if they decide to remove Jedi from the galaxy - though I doubt they will because a lot of people love Jedi and do not imagine SW without them.
    I'd be slightly disappointed if they continue with "bad guys are useless because they can't shoot" theme. I'd love to see stormtroopers acting like real elite soldiers, no matter who's against them.
    Same thing with FO fleet - I'd love to see them kick ass, not like in R1 where two (!) star destroyers were taken down by few bombers and one corvette. I know it's only a movie, but I'm slightly tired of "good guys have to always win" motive and would love to see it balanced.
    And I'd hate the idea of Snoke being some reincarnation/clone of Palpatine or being Plagueis or anyone "super powerful but hiding in the dark during reign of Palpatine". That would diminish Palpatine's character.
     
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    I would not characterize the military action around Scarif as a "win" for the good guys. A large portion of the Rebel Fleet including the flagship was lost. An entire fighter squadron including the commanding officer of all fighters, was lost. All ground troops that engaged the Empire on the surface of Scarif were either lost or captured, I think we can conclude none made it off the surface. Indeed the plans were stolen, but at tremendous cost, a pyrrhic victory.
     
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    Worse thing that could happen with TLJ is that it sucks.

    That's it, really.

    Honestly though, I'm pretty open minded. Even if it is a bit of a rehash of ep5, or Rey is a true random, or Rey is a Solo, or Finn is a Jedi, or Finn is in a relationship with Poe, or the KoR are lame, or Luke dies: I feel like I'll still watch it and will enjoy it. RJ is talented, TFA set the scene for some cool stuff, and I love Star Wars.

    What I'm trying to say is, I love Star Wars. it's also worth noting that I love Star Wars. But to keep a long story short I'll just end with this: I love Star Wars.
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 14, 2017, Original Post Date: Apr 14, 2017 ---
    All that having been said, I would be a bit peeved if they waited to answer the juiciest of mysteries until ep9. That would drive me crazy.
     
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