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SPECULATION [Theory] Rey is the good in Vader.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Bandini, Mar 17, 2017.

  1. Grand Master Galen Marek

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    Don't worry I was very focused on the facts & hated the fact he didn't believe.
     
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    Addendum :

    Random scenes, I see in other movies.





    I would also note that Maz Kanata was a toy of Anakin and obviously some part of his childhood and in Vader's head, something about Anakin.

    [​IMG]

    At this point, this only picture could argue A LOT than we are in Anakin's psyche.

    This toy is only known of Anakin in the whole Star Wars universe.
     
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    They'll reveal it with this :

    Rey will find this on Acht To.

    On the wall of the jedi temple.

    [​IMG]

    Very strong emotional scene.
     
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    This is a really well-thought-out theory you've constructed. I didn't think anything of it at first, to be honest, but it's really quite clever. The more you post, the more I'm sold.
     
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    Actually, this started from one intuition, I've couldn't have gone that far by pure coincidence.

    Thank you.
     
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    Through love you can do everything. Anakin Skywalker.

    That will be what this trilogy will be about and Disney's message.
     
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    I said that I would explain the Solo's death so I will but I might be a little short in english to make this clear. Not really for the meaning of the scene but for the plot reasons.

    This is obviously the Vader / Kenobi meeting in ANH but they changed Kenobi with the imaginary dad for it would have been too obvious and they already used it as a plot start with Lor San Tekka.

    The talk between Solo and Kylo Ren is a father / son broken relationship.



    And the scene between these two on the Death Star could easily match theses lines. All of them.




    Your son is gone, he was weak so I destroyed him.



    The big part of this was get the time back from the plot start and obviously a big part of the mystery box.

    To make the link betweeen the two scenes, we have Poe who shoots at Kylo Ren when he killed Lor San Tekka and Chewie after the death of Solo. This means that killing the jedi wasn't a big deal for Vader but killing his fatherly figure started something he didn't expect ( see the plot start ).
     
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    A very interesting and clever theory. If the ST was a one-off movie, I wouldn't mind it...
    But as a trilogy, this seems not that far removed from the "it was all a dream" trope. I don't think fans would be happy to discover that the characters they grew to (hopefully) enjoy were basically a dreamscape.

    Overall, I think this is a much more optimistic and positive take on the "TFA is just ANH" argument- both of which can be addressed by Lucas's "poetry" quote.

    But still, as graduate of literature, I absolutely enjoy reading about stuff like this, in which lines are connected. Looking forward to seeing what we may learn from TLJ!
     
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    This is the main "problem" of the theory is that every line is connected and make a lot of sense.

    It's very Disney-esque if this story is about to make Anakin and Padme the greatest love story of all time ( because this is the real point of this ).
     
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    Finn is playing R2's character in ANH, litterally.

    Get stuck in a battle, escape through space, get on a desert planet with a vital information, meet the hero and has a incident with the hero, makes friend with the hero, became his buddy then taking a shot at the end in the trench.

    Maybe, they went the laziest possible or I don't know but it's mirroring R2's journey from start to end.

    And he gets in a coma when Artoo gets back to life.
     
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    The coincidences ARE almost creepy, if you look at them this way.
     
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    I'm not sure I'll change my theory after this trailer ...

    Rey is ... breathing ... a lot.

    Rey felt from somewhere as I predicted in the appropriate thread.

    And breathe ... sounds I don't know why important.

     
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    I won't explain the trailer even if he ties very well with the theory because I don't know how the scenes are used in the movie and it would not be honest from my side.
     
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    This is Vader's mask made with Kylo Ren's one actually.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Damn, this is a pretty cool idea... :O
     
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    This vid is explaining the reasons Disney did this.



    Because it is the greatest story of all times and you can't do more.

    Rey is the good in him.
     
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    Anakin, what are you doing in this scene ?



    Yeah, you guessed it : He tries to transfer auxiliary power to the secondary tank—.




    The whole Jakku's escape is a mirror of the Tattoine's podracing, there is even the mirror shot with Sebulba and the TIE Pilot.




    Damn memories.
     
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    Minor details on Attack of the Clones.

    Words with Palps ( see the Snoke part ).



    Anakin really trusted Palps.



    There's not only Plagueis who's supposed to be wise.

    [​IMG]

    Anakin doesn't like when he gets his hand not free.

     
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