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SPECULATION There is a jedi temple in Rey's vision (screenshots)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Sithwalker, Mar 24, 2016.

  1. Sithwalker

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    what a discovery.. not sure if im the first one but on the right in the background you can clearly see a building that resembles the jedi temple either from Rebels or from PT Screenshot (2).png Screenshot (4).png


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    Yeah, it's been around. I think there was some conjecture regarding the Clan Massacre at the temple, and I think the script refers to it as the temple too. But don't flame me, as this was a while ago and I've kind of forgotten. Someone will remember better than me.

    Makes you wonder though, if the Force back visions are centred around the lightsaber, what it was doing here and who had it. I wonder if it had anything to do with Rey's Mum...
     
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    It also can be seen in the trailer behind the Knights of Ren.
     
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    It looks like a group of people imo. A few huddled close together in the centre with an additional two flanking each side.
     
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    'tis a temple:

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    In the film, the burning temple scene comes first. That the temple was already included in Luke's scene is what makes me doubt that it was included again in the next scene.

    Also, in the novel, Rey stumbles and turns AWAY from the Knights and then the fire from the distant temple illuminates her. When she stumbles here, this could've been a transition to the next part of the force vision. The battlefield and the burning temple may be two separate events.
     
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    It looks like a hybrid or an ancient temple from
    Before the Jedi and the Sith separated between two factions .
     
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    I saw a video on youtube about this very same thing and the person suggests that the Clan might have or had the Anakin/Luke lightsaber and this is what Kylo Ren was after. Of course the KOR didn't find it so they killed everyone.
     
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    i dunno ~ the whole thing is slippy, but i assume the temple is in the scene because it's part of the previous paragraph.
    the line that follows (starting a new paragraph) about the seven disappearing, to me, indicates the actual transition.

    but i seriously believe Foster didn't entirely know what he was writing in the forceback (or things have radically shifted since).
    so anything is possible.
     
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    You don't happen to have a link to the aforementioned video by any chance?
     
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    Here it is.


     
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    I think is the force vision Rey has is what happen with Luke's failed academy. I was just watching the scene of her force vision. prolly have to request it again so I can see a better look at it.

    May the force be with you always...

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    I think you are correct-- and it is a transition what most do not realize the omitted scene shows the temple/academy actually is a apart of a snowy forest. the scene with Lukes hand and r2d2 is the only scene on film of the temple (you actually dont see it ) you note it is dry and the sparks of fire are in the air. That is the only scene of the temple. Many mistake the raining scene with the bodies as the temple but it is a battle field and not a picture of the past but of the future. If you look real close after the warrior is slain in Kylos left hand is Rey's light saber. the bodies are too large and too many to be for a school for 1 master (according to Han Luke was the only one training) . The scene of the temple they never showed it in the movie but it is in the book and it is Ben 15 talking to Rey 5 he is hiding her in the forest (snowy) while there is a battle in the distance (which means he was not acting alone) it is something like "Stay here sweetheart I will come back for you . I promise" again another term we know it is Ben (sweetheart is his fathers terminology see Emplire Strikes Back) The snow and the forest is were the school was not the rain. Also in the end in the book the force shows rey Kylo coming from the forest with sword up after the scene where Ben is hiding Rey ---- it is trying to show her the voice talking to her and this person are one in the same. WE have this scene in the movie but we mistake for the scene of the close future since they fight in the snow in the near future. Really in fact that is connected to the scene of the voices of the past ... However the scene is so disconnected we cannot see it for what it really means. (Which is the force trying to show Rey the voices in the snowy scene and Kylo are one is the same person) Notice he has his mask on in that scene.
     
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    he knew what he was writing he had the script. you are missing the most important part the part that is too revealing and they cut it and substituted the scene for the ship leaving the planet. Some say it was due to time constraints and could not shoot it. The raining scene is not the past it is the future. The scene of the academy/temple is the voice talking to her taking and hiding her in the snowy forest and you hear a battle in the distance. (note he could not have been acting alone he is not at the battle but hiding her ) "stay here i will come back for you I promise sweetheart" that is 15 Ben talking to 5 Rey (your clue is sweetheart refer to Empire strikes back ) who uses it ? the academy was in the snow not the rain . I think this is the scene Rian wanted back in and Jj refused.. so now he has to put it in those words will be repeated to her by him somewhere after she has this so called dream/vision. As for the rain scene it is a battlefield if out count of about 300 large bodies a Red sword into the back of a warrior has just saved her and she moves and gets up and yes in his left hand is her Light saber he moves urgently toward her sword down and it cuts. Also back to the book after the words were spoken there is another snow scene of Kylo appearing with mask and and sword up. it is a scene trying to show her that the boy talking to her and Kylo are one in the same . She has not made the connection yet. That scene is in in the movie but it is so disconnected we think it is the scene in the near future. ... the Snow is your clue ... not the rain. Oddly they have their battle in the snow ....
     
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    Here is something I came across. I was watching TCW and saw this episode and immediately thought about this thread. The screenshot with TFA and TCW is VERY MUCH similar. Could it be that Mortis is a planet so ethereal that Anakin is 'The Chosen One' and took hold of Mortis to balance the force? That place did balance the force in TCW. With the daughter dying by the hands of the Son, the darkside took over. The Father was just the ruler of them 2. With the Father making Anakin forget his future then kiling himself with the sword and then Anakin killing The Son with just a lightsaber tells me that the balance of the force was on the darkside and that Anakin had to continue his forsaken future he saw. Maybe Luke and Kylo got caught in Mortis while Luke was seeking balance in the force. I would have to think about it more in depth but from this I think there is a possiblity that Mortis and Rey's vision might have some sort of connection. Dont spoil TCW for me yet if you know more information. Im just going off the last episode I just watch and comparing.

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    The temple (or whatever) in the rain slightly resembles this tree from recent episode VIII set pics. It's definitely not the same thing though, but considering those pictures above (of temples) then this sure looks like it could be.. the first Jedi temple.

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    The tree looks dead, possibly burnt. Could that tree have been the source of the sparks that we see in the Luke and Artoo scene in the vision?
     
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