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Things you want t see from the Sequel Trilogy

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by Kylorey, Jan 24, 2016.

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    Good choices.
     
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    I'd like to see Rey get a little slutty... image.jpeg
     
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    The ancient history of Snoke and Maz.
     
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    That's IF they have a history together, though .
     
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    Did they date or something? *vomits*
     
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    Number 3 for sure. One of the biggest things that bummed me out was that the fight against evil had been reduced to about 20 Xwings....nearly the same number as in ANH...hey.... Were there other similarities between ANH & TFA?

    Or are they completely different movies like house party 1 & house 2? (I swear, if JJ had put Kid N Play in TFA, I wouldn't have cared about his hackery, that would've been amazing)

    One of the best parts of ROTJ was the diverse forces of the Rebellion (and the awesome computer and Nintendo games they spawned), so hopefully we get more of that in Ep VIII & Ep IX
     
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    As far as the story goes, I want to see how the Galaxy has been affected by the fall of the Empire. For many, the Empire brought tyranny and misery, but it also brought lots of economy, trade, and depending on how 'in-line' you were; protection. I want to see a Galaxy that NEEDS a united Jedi Order and New Republic.
     
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    At the time of the battle between Rey and Kylo Ren, there's two choices the Force has. Kylo Ren wins the battle and all is over, he kills Finn, Rey and find Luke and it is the end of the Jedi Order and of the light side of the Force or Rey wins and she's able to find Luke and built it again.

    It's not Rey who won the battle, it was the Force who chosed his side.
     
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    That makes no sense. You learn the ways of the Force and become powerful with it flowing through you.

    It doesn't control each side like Rock'em sock'em robots.

    Are you being sarcastic, if so, tots fail.
     
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    I'm not sarcastic at all. Take a look at where the things are at this moment. What would happen if Kylo Ren won ?
     
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    Rey would win.

    She is perfect. KK won't let her have a fault.
     
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    Uh yeah, only men can be that good, I forgot.

    My bad.
     
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    I want to see final battle and Snoke's battleship crashing on a blue planet
    In the uncharted areas of the Galaxy ,wiping out what appears to be dinosaurs.
     
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    Huh?

    I didn't say anything about men vs women's abilities or how they should be portrayed in film.

    It is my contention, and the facts of the film back me up about this: REY has no flaws in TFA. She behaves almost perfectly throughout the whole film and it's ridiculous.

    She's a MaRey Suex machina.
     
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    i feel like no amount of enumerating Rey's flaws will convince anybody, but here they are again, just for funsies:
    1. she's blind (emotionally crippled) about staying on Jakku; even though it makes no sense whatsoever.
    2. she jumps to conclusions about Finn; attacks first as a default (not really a nice quality).
    3. she crashes the Falcon all over the place before figuring out how to get it in the air; stalls it out later.
    4. she screws up and resets the wrong fuses, letting out the rathtars.
    5. she has no idea how to fire a blaster (Han even says "you have a lot to learn").
    6. she runs from Maz Kanata after the Forceback (real heroic, Rey, after you just chewed out Finn for doing the same).
    7. she's so scared of Kylo Ren he probably didn't even need the Force to catch her.
    8. she escapes from the interrogation room, but has no idea how to get off Starkiller and just runs around in circles.
    9. she has to use the Dark to beat Kylo Ren (this does not bode well for her).
    she has a lot of other moments of weakness in the book, but we'll just stick with the film for now.
    and yes, she does manage to do a lot of things right.
    because, ultimately, heroes do.

    she's no luckier or adept than Luke was in ANH.
     
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    1. Knights of Ren
    2. Lando's reaction to Han's death
    3. Luke's reaction to Han's death
    4. Rey's jedi training
    5. Finn and Poe going on missions
    6. Kylo and Leia come face to face
    7. more epic space battles
    8. more epic lightsaber duels
    9. Snoke's backstory
     
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    You're mistaking "being all-powerful from birth" for "having no flaws"

    1) she didn't come up with the idea her family was returning for her. Someone fed her that illusion. And it seems her memory has been fiddled with somehow. A child wanting to reconnect with her family in the place they left her makes sense to a child, and Rey is 16, and doesn't seem to have received any new info sense. A child being overpowered through hypnosis or mind control (like in a cult) at age 7 and unable to break free without help until you're 17 and meet a powerful person like Maz. That's not a flaw, that's being overmatched by someone with power, influence, access, and an agenda.

    2) BB-8 tells her Finn is wearing a jacket belonging to her master. BB-8 is at that point shown to be hotly desired on that planet. Rey was just assaulted by those trying to get BB-8, its not a stretch to imagine Finn killed Poe and stole his jacket. And when Finn gives Poe's name and a (true) reason he has the jacket, it's not too much of a stretch to see her believing him.

    3. Learn to fly a dingle engine Cessna. Spend 4 days learning the F-22 raptor. Fly one once. Wait 6 years. While being hunted by special forces troops, attempt to steal an old, dusty F-22 raptor and make a perfect take off and first 35 seconds of flight Chuck Yeager.
     
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    I'm liking this post becsuae you make several good points, and unlike so many posts, it avoids name calling or accusing someone of trolling or wanting to not like TFA.

    Okay, now let me resume my response to your points.


    4. Okay, Mary Sues can make mistakes. They are flawless characters. Clipping the wrong wire isn't a flaw, it's a mistake. And Rey almost immediately corrects the mistake and saves Finn using some kind of similar wire crossing lever pulling technobabble-esqe BS on a ship she's never been on. Her engineering prowess is unmatched among adults, let alone teenage girls trapped on nearly deserted planets.

    5) no, he gives her the blaster and she says I know how to handle myself, and he says that's why I'm giving it to you. He asks her if she knows how to use it and she says yes. She starts kind of playing with it, and he slides her arm away so he can't possibly The "you have a lot to learn" is a general kind of new mentor thing to say, and is a cliche.

    6) Rey has had the veil of her brainwashing lifted briefly and was just shown Excalibur and told it was hers to take and use. Rey is shown to be a brave person. Being freaked out and taking some time to go get air, refusing to commit to all this new stuff being thrown at her? That's not cowardly, it's wisely leaving the room and collecting yourself. She never gets anywhere near getting off the planet and accepts her destiny as soon as it comes up again.

    7) she's not a coward, and she defends herself as best she reasonably can in that encounter. Feeling fear isn't a flaw. It's being human. Giving into fear, lust, or ego: each is an example of a flaw.

    8. She's not a god, so no, she doesn't find her way off the base in 15 minutes but she avoids capture by the sensors, thousands of troops in the base that know she's escaped. Plus Kylo Ren is searching for her presence and can't locate her.

    9) nowhere in the movie does it state that she's "using the Dark" to defeat Kylo. She defeats him by just being that awesome. (Which, like the mind trick, hadn't been done in such an ex machina, "find the switch" way, would've been damn cool).

    I'm not saying Rey can't be developed as a complete character and given some flaws and struggle like a normal hero, or they she ruined TFA, it was just obvious what she turned out to be in TFA
     
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    Things I would like to see:

    1. The heroes having to face off against more of the Knights of Ren. With each Knight having a unique weapon and fighting style. Hopefully there chosen weapons will perhaps shed light on the back story of each member without having tons of exposition.

    2. I would want to see more of Rey's Jedi training, similar to Luke and the cave in Empire, but perhaps something we haven't seen before. I really don't want another lightsaber with a training remote scene. I would like to think in ANH that Obi-wan was smart enough and resourceful enough find an old remote on the Falcon and cobbled together a primitive, but effective, exercise for Luke to get more in tune with the Force. Not a "Oh we always used these cold lifeless machines to train Jedi to gain a better connection with the Force" Obi-wan just happened to be carrying one around with him.

    3. I would love to see Lando again, Happy to see Luke and Leia but unaware that Han is dead, and they have to break the news to him.

    4. I would also really like to see Leia use the Force at some point. Like some large piece of debris gets thrown at her and she is able to stop it with the Force, but that would be about the extent of it.

    5. Bring back more of the old ships but with updated designs.

    6. Also this is very minor but I would love to see a trash planet. You always see them in the video games but never in the movies. I can't think of a reason for them to go to one but I think it would be an interesting local.
     
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    Yeah Leia would and should use the force to force spank ben .
     
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