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THREAD FOR THOSE WHO FEEL MIXED ABOUT THE MOVIE

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Talon Karrde, Dec 16, 2017.

  1. Rayjefury

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    It would represent a logic problem for me, because I thought what TLJ was communicating was that he found his purpose and therefore joined the Resistance. He found something he was willing to give his life for (far fetched albeit) coming out of his coma. That doesn't register to you as purpose?
     
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    He found vague purpose, in the idea of the Resistance itself, sure.

    But what will his purpose be? I think that's for IX.

    Perhaps you'd agree with this?: the extended Phasma scene, if it'd been left in the film, would've done wonders to make Finn's path more clear.

    Personally, I could see that being the case.
     
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    The extended Phasma scene would have been useful in arguing that a Storm Trooper rebellion could be on the horizon (there were other impediments to this plot line from TFA and TLJ but at least this would be some indicator). But whether or not I agree with it, I thought Rian's communication on this was that Finn found purpose in fighting for the Resistance, in what capacity he did that was secondary or even irrelevant.
     
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    This is where I am with this film. For the most part I have enjoyed the ST, but the trilogy so far has its issues. First and for most for me is the lack of world building, and generally speaking just sort of boring set up between the first order and the resistance. I mean I read the books and comics and stuff so I’m fine with getting a lot of that from them, but still I wish we would’ve gotten more of this on screen.

    And with only one film left, certainly a lot of questions remain to be covered.
     
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    I recently watched TFA and TLJ back to back, after taking a few months off (to give some perspective) and I realized I will always be mixed on the Trilogy. I think the films are well executed and I do enjoy them in that respect, but the story is so unoriginal (and borrows TOO many themes from the OT) that it's really not that interesting after multiple viewings.

    I sort of rolled my eyes twice, when Kylo Ren tells Rey she needs a teacher in TFA, and when Rey tries to redeem Kylo Ren in TLJ. I just feel it's 'been there done that' after 8 movies, and SW seriously needs to find another story. It's ironic because I feel the exact opposite towards the PT in that the story is very interesting (the world building, the plotting by Palpatine, the tragic fall of the Jedi), but the movies are so badly executed that they don't hold up well in that respect 15-20 years later.

    I really don't care about Episode 9 at this point even though I do think it will be an entertaining movie, as JJ will push all of the right buttons. I just don't believe there is anything new in the story that they can do at this point to make it interesting other then retreading more plot points/themes from the OT. They will twist some of those plot points around like they did in TLJ to make it seem original, but if you take a step back, there really will be nothing new.
     
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    So unlike some, I really like grumpy old Luke. Everything from Luke on Ach-To rings true to me.

    My problem comes with Luke on Crait. To me, that's when he starts to feel unlike Luke. Brushing his shoulder, "see you around kid"--these just don't strike me as Luke things.

    And this next bit is pure speculation, unbacked by any actual knowledge:

    The "grumpy Luke" bits feel like Rian Johnson's work, and those are the things Hamill hates.

    My theory is that the "Luke on Crait" bits are a lot more Hamill than Johnson. They remind me of the grizzled warrior Luke that Hamill wanted to see in RotJ. The whole thing in general feels more like Mark Hamill than Luke, to me.

    So I wonder: maybe my problems with Luke have nothing to do with Johnson. Maybe those are the parts where Johnson have Hamill a bit more leash.
     
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