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THREAD FOR THOSE WHO HATED THE MOVIE

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Kript, Dec 13, 2017.

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Which points do you agree were not well made and you did not like?

  1. 1.Luke as a character

    192 vote(s)
    57.1%
  2. 2.Phasma being wasted

    148 vote(s)
    44.0%
  3. 3.Forced and bad humor

    200 vote(s)
    59.5%
  4. 4.Finding out nothing about Snoke and his premature death

    181 vote(s)
    53.9%
  5. 5.Rey parents being nobodies

    128 vote(s)
    38.1%
  6. 6.Maz and Luke's lightsaber

    123 vote(s)
    36.6%
  7. 7.The knights of ren are forgotten and nowhere to be seen

    176 vote(s)
    52.4%
  8. 8.Leia flying through space scene

    219 vote(s)
    65.2%
  9. 9.Luke's weightless death

    147 vote(s)
    43.8%
  10. 10.The whole Finn and Rose plotline

    225 vote(s)
    67.0%
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    This is the wrong way to be making a cinematic universe nowadays. You make plans and execute them, not bring in new writers and new directors and essentially constantly reboot the direction from project to project of where things are going. A lot of this should have been worked out 6 years ago and we the audience and that company are paying the price because of it. As have a lot of writers and directors that were brought on and subsequently removed in various ways. IX is going to be a reboot of a reboot of a reboot whether anybody likes it or not.

    Kevin Feige is playing chess over at Marvel and Lucasfilm is playing tic-tac-toe.
     
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    And that is the problem now, I don't know why they can't realize this. They are doing the same thing the DCEU was/is doing, making random moves without thinking about it first.

    It's one thing to bring up George Lucas' "made it up as it went along", but the point was he had a direction for his main character.
     
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    But what's your point? They're also negative reviews as well as positive ones. So, what you think one person is just creating one account over and over again? That only proves that the system is "rigged."
     
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    And Lucas had a story credit and was the company president and had a very strong hand in everything Lucasfilm did (not so much counting the old EU as that was third parties coming up with their own SW things) whether he was the director or not - it came from one god-like overseer, he was the god of Star Wars.

    Even that cameo in Solo that I've read about was a late, unplanned addition according to Ron Howard.

    https://www.slashfilm.com/solo-reveal-explained/
     
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    Almost 30 invented accounts one after the other, some people are feeling the heat of failure I guess.

    It's funny to imagine people trying to up the rating with new accounts, they should have asked for the bad bots !

    https://www.rottentomatoes.com/user/id/977315459/

    :D:D:D:D

    Edit : Someone else did the count for me :

    Attention:
    On the 11th of June over 150 five-star ratings came, most of them one line.

    And it's still at 46%

    Funny to see that prosecutors of cheating and harrassment are not that trustworthy ...
     
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    yeah I´ve been following RT TLJ since december and I saw this attempt to rise the score in the past few days....
     
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    Hilarious! Real numbers don't matter everyone loved TLJ.:confused: It's okay to like this movie, but you have to deal with reality at some point, right?? I really hope that I like Ep. IX so I can run into the hate thread for it and use some of the lines that I've learned in this thread. I can be condescending and insult over "head cannon", expectations and spin bad numbers into good news too! Don't ever let anyone say this thread isn't useful. It's been quite educational for me.;)
     
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    I'm not taking credit for this, but it's from Clone Wars Season 2 Ep 12. I still suspect Kylo Ren's words were supposed to be 'wrong' to the audience, but if not, that is really an interesting find between old and new philosophies?

    [​IMG]
     
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    The results are the same all over the world despite those lame attempts.
     
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    That is how I interpreted it. He seemed intended to sound foolish, as if he was blinded by his ideal.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 12, 2018, Original Post Date: Jun 12, 2018 ---
    My understanding of the Rotten Tomatoes user score is that their system does not count the half star ratings. Which means that the posted audience score for all films is higher than it actually is. So that 46% is probably higher than it should be.

    Additionally it looks like many people who feel strongly both positively, and negatively manipulate the score.

    I don't believe anyone can get an accurate number in this scenario, though when people who care enough to leave legitimate reviews do so somewhere around 46% or less, due to the system, seems about right to me.
     
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    I don't know if it's true but it's been said that Rotten Tomatoes converts 'Want To See' ratings into the 'likes' once 'likes' are enabled when the movie releases. So TLJ's likes are inflated by that and Solo's was deflated by that if that is the case.
     
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    They did it again today. Strike of 5 stars with new accounts for pages and pages.

    BTW, this thread is gold ...

    https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet....could-happen-in-ep-viii-in-your-opinion.9865/

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    My goodness, it is insane that so many things that people didn't want to see actually came to pass in TLJ. It's almost like Rian was logged in to the Cantina taking notes, "Fandom doesn't want Luke to die - check. Kill off Luke. Fandom doesn't want a random Rey - check. Random Rey confirmed. Ah, it looks like they hate Reylo - check. I'll center the entire story around potential Reylo."

    No wonder this movie is so polarizing, it's like he hit every possible unwanted subversion in the film. LOL
     
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    I for once found very funny that one of the guys that had been the most offensive in this thread ( at his start ) stated that if Snoke was nobody or if it wasn't explained he would walk out the theater. Then he went here to say that we were just a bunch of idiots.
     
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    Interesting, had a look, obviously someone is creating accounts, not going through their own facebook accounts (would then have pics I guess, like most others) to bring the score up.

    Ah, what futility. It will be impossible with near 200 000 reviews in for anyone,...which will probably double in 2-3 years. You'd have to quit your dayjob and dedicate your life to it to even shift a few percent....just to be caught by RT for beings so blatantly obvious. rtmanipul.jpg Talk about being both dumb and fanatical.

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    LOL I wasn't going to mention any specific names or contradictions between people's positions then and now. I just focused on how many of those things (from fans who hate and love TLJ) that we didn't want to see ended up in the actual film. It is amazing that he could have impaled TLJ with that many lightning rods. TLJ will probably never set right with me because each time I think about it, all I can see is a guy who should have been given a stand alone, and who essentially decided he was going to do one anyway.
     
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