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THREAD FOR THOSE WHO HATED THE MOVIE

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Kript, Dec 13, 2017.

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Which points do you agree were not well made and you did not like?

  1. 1.Luke as a character

    192 vote(s)
    57.1%
  2. 2.Phasma being wasted

    148 vote(s)
    44.0%
  3. 3.Forced and bad humor

    200 vote(s)
    59.5%
  4. 4.Finding out nothing about Snoke and his premature death

    181 vote(s)
    53.9%
  5. 5.Rey parents being nobodies

    128 vote(s)
    38.1%
  6. 6.Maz and Luke's lightsaber

    123 vote(s)
    36.6%
  7. 7.The knights of ren are forgotten and nowhere to be seen

    176 vote(s)
    52.4%
  8. 8.Leia flying through space scene

    219 vote(s)
    65.2%
  9. 9.Luke's weightless death

    147 vote(s)
    43.8%
  10. 10.The whole Finn and Rose plotline

    225 vote(s)
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    "Is Disney destroying STAR WARS over George Lucas royalties? The Star Wars Rights"

     
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    Wish Lucas had just done this himself.
     
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    While this would go a long way towards explaining a lot of Disney/LFL's colossal blunders, I don't know if I can fully sign on to this theory. As a publicly traded company, wouldn't this have to come out at some point in time that they don't own all licensing rights to all the SW characters?
     
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    At the time of the sale of Lucasfilm to Disney in 2012, it was mentioned that Disney had bought the rights to make NEW Star Wars films. It did not specifically say they had bought all the IP and legacy characters....
     
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    Whuh huh whuhhhhh? Every single article I read - including the official press release and Disney's Annual Shareholder Report - said "Disney Acquires Lucasfilm". Nowhere did they qualify that they merely bought rights to make new films. Furthermore, Lucasfilm is listed as a wholly owned subsidiary of Disney Studios. Again, that's not something you do when you merely have "bought the rights to make new Star Wars films."

    I actually checked to make sure I remembered things correctly and found this in their shareholder report: "we are thrilled to add Lucasfilm and its beloved Star Wars franchise, with its universe of more than 17,000 characters, inhabiting several thousand planets, spanning 20,000 years." Sure sounds like they bought all the IP and Legacy characters to me.
     
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    I know what you mean, but you have to admit, the legal contracts are probably hard as hell for the layman to understand, and I wonder if they brushed over the details simply to keep from getting into the weeds on the issue?

    I"m not sure that I believe it, but I have to admit, it does help to explain some of the decisions (like no OT and PT stuff in Galaxy's Edge for one). I'm not sure we will ever know for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me if this were true.

    A bit of a side issue, but I see the google searches being conducted for IX are way down. Add to that fact the failure of Galaxy's Edge, the failure of "Galaxy of Adventure" and their new cartoon Resistance, plus the absolutely disaster that was Solo and can anyone deny there is something rotten in the GFFA???? I've said it for months, but none of my high school kids gives a blast anymore about Star Wars, and that is a far cry from the excitement for Star Wars there was leading up t and after The Force Awakens. I hope IX is kick ass and makes a ton of money, but to quote Han, "I have a bad feeling about this."
     
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    Well, yeah, the contracts are probably hard for the layman to understand... but, say, the reporter at the Wall Street Journal whose job it is to explain these things to us probably would understand it and report on it.
    This is how I feel too. I can't quite bring myself to believe it, but it sure does explain a lot.

    And please let the record show that no matter what we are talking about, Disney would still have to pay residuals to the talent behind the movies they sell (this is true of any movie they distribute). So when they get a check from TNT to show Star Wars all weekend long, or when they sell blu rays of any of the movies, the writers/director/actors all get a small piece. 20th Century Fox would also have been entitled to a little something back when they were a separate entity. So yes, I'm sure Lucas is still getting something. But I am not sold on the notion that he is still get anything above and beyond what we'd typically expect from any studio distributing any film.
    Heck, we just had an article from Bloomberg talking about how kids these days just aren't into Star Wars. Tough for the Disney apologists to accuse Bloomberg of being nothing but a bunch of haters on YouTube.

    I think E9 will continue the downward trend since Disney took over. So yes, that means it won't do as well as E8 (although it'll certainly do better than Solo). And I do not envy D&D their job ahead.
     
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    Whoever conceptualized Galaxy's Edge should be fired.

    "Boy that's so much cooler to explore a place we never heard of and never appeared in any of the movies than it would be to go to Mos Eisley or the Death Star! I'd much rather see Hondo Ohnaka and Vi Moradi than Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader!" - said no human being ever
     
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    The new planet they conceived isn't even good from an original creation's standpoint. It looks like a dollar store fusion of Tatooine and Yavin.

    If they wanted to make a new planet, they should've at least gone with something visually-distinct---but as mandated by LFL, all things SW these days HAS to replicate the "used-future" aesthetic of the Original Trilogy, no matter how little sense it makes, or how woefully tiresome it gets to see it copied-and-pasted everywhere within the Nu-Canon.
     
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    Plot i not the best word, imo. My guess (and from a while now) is that they genually believed that brand new characters = more money.
    Add to that that by the time TFA came out, GL and the prequels weren't that popular.
    Therefore, they simply chose to ignore GL's SW and ideas, to push strongerly the narrvative
    "new characters, etc....".
    But clearly something went wrong. The new charactes are not as popular as the old ones and many who loved the legacy characters feel betrayed.
     
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    Seems that Galaxy's Edge was built with a bad motivator, can we swap it out for the blue a new one?



    Asking for a fren.
     
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    ....because I'm sure they closed this section for this publicity shoot. If that's even what it was. A lot easier than trying to keep people away.
    Hell, if you bother to read the article it said he was vacationing with family -- he may have had the luxury of getting in before the general public to keep from being bothered. Not really out of the realm of ordinary for celebrities.

    Also. How does criticizing Galaxy's Edge relate to how you felt about The Last Jedi, again?
    As with a lot of the other content here, this last page or so about conspiracy theories is really starting to push the envelope of what this thread was meant for. Let's keep that in mind going forward before devolving into more general bashing.

    EDIT
    For anyone wishing to continue the Galaxy's Edge conversation, I realize there wasn't really a proper place for that. A thread has been created here:
    https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/galaxys-edge-general-discussion.56444/

    thanks!
     
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    I can't stand Nerdotic. I find him to be a sexist and racist fanboy who wants to return to the past.
     
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    They just bring nothing to the story.

    Holdo dead ( we barely knew you purple lady ). There is 50 fellows in the resistance and the officers who are basically 5 don't know each other.
    DJ ( basically Lando ), there is only one man that can crack the code except the other one which is at the same place in your jail.
    Rose ( nice person but terrible character )

    Who else ?

    Noone.

    I'm not sure these 3 will last as relevant in the whole saga.

    The funny thing too is that it is not only Poe who disobeyed Leia at the start of the movie but the whole resistance ... They sent bombers and all their ships while Leia clearly said : Don't go.

    It was a good thing that they all died because the movie would have been 30 minutes longer is Leia had to slap everyone who disobeyed her orders.

    I'm not going to search for any logic there. Sounds that nobody cared about the flying general. Nice army we had there. Not a surprise that they finished with 10 people on a ship which was basically : Everything they need.

    So much grieving for the people who died during the movie. It just was lacking confettis and fireworks in the Falcon. What a win.
     
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    They won't have any lasting relevance. And that is sad, as I remember when watching TFA I loved how they introduced Rey. The first 15-20 minutes or so was cool, and especially that sequence where we first meet her. Oh the potential.

    But even after TFA there was still potential. Even if they screwed up by having her trust everyone who comes along after setting the stage for her to have trust issues. But TLJ is where the wheels came off. Johnson, for all his talk about wanting to do something different didn't. He copied and pasted Empire, but left out the important elements (making me wonder if the guy understands anything about Star Wars).

    Instead of humanizing Rey and making her flawed, thus helping the audience bond with her, he makes her infallible. Her failure in TLJ isn't really her failure. It is Luke's failure, as, according to the script, failure is the greatest teacher. But the hero/heroine, should be the one who fails. But she doesn't. Why? Because the failure on board the Supremacy isn't hers. It is Luke's. He failed to teach her, to do what Yoda told him to do: pass on what you learned. This is the opposite of Empire where the failure is that of the hero, not the teacher. We know he messed up the moment he takes the bait and goes to rescue his friends. His teachers tell him they can not interfere and help him if he leaves. He leaves and it almost costs him his life. He was broken and lucky to get out of their with his life.

    Rey? She fails, but it doesn't bother her. And why should it? The failure isn't on her. It's on her teacher. He gave her two half ass lessons, and showed he didn't even understand the actual history of the Jedi when he said that "at their height, the Jedi allowed the Sith to take over" or something to that extent. The Jedi were NOT at the height of their power. Yoda and Mace discuss this in II, but whatever. The main thing is that LUKE is the one who fails. And this absolves Rey of responsibility for her failure. It's why I didn't like her in this film. It is why many don't like her. What makes you love the hero is that they try and they fail. But the failure is THEIRS. Nevermind all of the other issues I have with the film, and there are many. Just fixing this one thing would have improved the story greatly.
     
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    Luke's story from the OT to the ST so far....

    A farm boy meets a Jedi, learns about the force and frees a princess then escapes a fortress, unknowingly leading the enemy to destroy his friends. Dead master guides the farm boy, like a father teaching his son the first time out driving, and helps him save his friends by hitting a bulls eye, the size of targets the farm boy had previously shot before....

    The farm boy realizes how dependent he was on his former now deceased master and wants to learn. He seeks out a master to teach him and trains with him, where his new master exposes his weaknesses, his doubt, in himself and the force. The farm boy now hero wannabe ignores warning from both his masters to save his friends whose fate is not known for sure, at great risk to himself... life and soul (if you will). He meets his enemy only to find out that his enemy is his father. He holds his own in the duel of lightsabers, but is completely outmatched in the battle of wills... until the very end. He fails to save his friends or have any impact on their escape, he fails his masters in everything save turning to the dark side. His life is over save for a shot in the dark where he has to hope against the odds that Leia hears his desperate call. He is humanized and humbled and hits rock bottom on all facets... emotionally due to discovering his father is a tyrannical killer, his masters kept the truth from him, his friend is taken who knows where, physically as he's pitifully weak in comparison to his enemy, he lost his hand, intellectually, that his enemy defeated him soundly strategically. He failed his friends, his master and himself. He can't get much lower without being dead, and at that point, sitting on that antenna array, death is likely minutes away.

    The kid is then saved by his sister/love interest and he limps into the ship. He can't even take part in the next action sequences or add anything to the group in their escape in any way. He's defeated on all grounds, save turning to the dark side.

    When we next see him, he is calm and has returned to the memory of his masters teachings, taking them more seriously than ever before and believing in himself and his abilities. In short, his defeat in ESB was the final lesson for him to learn of his foolishness and cast it aside and embrace his destiny. He starts small by saving his friend from thugs. He learns humility and seeks out his master to finish his training, only to learn his masters have nothing else to give, only one task remains. He doubts himself until the spirit of his old master talks to him and helps guide him. With new resolve, he meets with his father once more. He believe in his father and his ability to turn form the dark side. He embraces the passivity of the Jedi, almost to a fault. He does falter in the throne room, but overcomes this before taking the last step to the dark side. He's willing to die to stay true to his teachings and is saved, and also rewarded, by leading his father back to the light to save his life.

    Next we see him, he's abandoned all of this due to his student and nephew embracing the dark side. We see that this happened in flash backs due to Luke again failing by peering into his nephews mind and seeing darkness, and contemplating killing him in his sleep. Fighting and losing to his nephew and having his academy destroyed, students presumably killed or turned. We learn that this made him run away from the galaxy, friends and family to hide away until he dies. He gives up on the universe and wallows in self pity for over (or near) a decade.

    When sought out, he rejects pleas for help by a student and friend to her sister, even after finding out his best friend and brother in law was killed by his students hands. He ignores his long time friend in Chewbacca. He teaches the young woman, aspiring Jedi, but with the purpose to have her reject the Jedi way and her own destiny. He becomes the anti-thesis to his own masters and further tries to sabotage his sisters efforts to restore peace to the galaxy. He is so miserable, that he drives his apprentice away, to the dark apprentice he himself trained to cause so much death and suffering in the galaxy. Not only is he responsible for Kylo, he nearly drives Rey to aid Kylo in his quest of dominance.

    Luke has no redeeming qualities in this version of SW, the ST. He's failure on all fronts, worse, he fails after having succeeded. He creates a monster and it seems, does his best to create a second and only fails due to her otherworldly goodness and wisdom. He still wallows in his misery until his old master appears to him in spirit form and then only comes to his sense when he scolds him and uses powers never seen before. Only then does he come out of his depression to sacrifice his life to save his sister, in an action that could have (probably should have) been futile, as at the time there was no known way out of that cave for them. He buys them time for events he knew nothing about, just more time to agonize over their deaths. Only by the grace of the writers do they create an escape route where there was none, and Rey the wise and embodiment of goodness and power comes to save the handful that remain.

    In that last effort, facing off against Kyo, Luke dies. Not in combat, but by exertion to project his illusion to taunt his former apprentice. No wise words, no forgiveness or appealing to the light, just jabs.

    And they wonder why the story is rejected. They wonder why the very human and relatable Luke is preferred even still over the perfect Rey. With or without TLJ, Luke is still 10 times the character Rey will ever be. Not because he's male, but because he's human and fallible. He has plot armor, yes, but not to defend him from making mistakes and being humiliated, but to save him from death and thus ending the story on a sad note. His plot armor only exists to further the story, to teach a lesson on forgiveness and redemption. Rey never needs to be redeemed or saved. That is where they fail.

    I can't stand ST Luke, but even if I were to accept him, he'd still be more relatable. I choose not to accept him, because to accept him means go give the rest of this ridiculous story acceptance, and I refuse. SW forever, I'll love the OT and occasionally take in some PT, but the ST failed me in its story telling. There's nothing compelling about it. I'm looking forward for IX, hoping beyond hope JJ reverts back to the teachings of the OT. That he shows that the quick and easy path does lead to the dark side. That humility is needed and worth while. That passiveness is the way of the Jedi and the light. That aggression leads to anger and so on and so forth eventually ending with the dark side. To deny that, denies what is the root of the message that SW gave. In LotR it's mercy, Bilbo's and Frodo's in staying their hand toward Gollum/Smeagle, in SW, as corny but well done as it is, it's love. Not vengeance, not authority or exerting that upon others. It's love that heals the galaxy.

    That is what makes SW great and the pretenders fail. It's done well and with a certain depth. The pretenders want the final big battle with two colossal forces clashing in epic power, light vs darkness... but it never feels true. Those conflicts never end, they splinter and the big mass of evil only breaks into pieces and the cycle continues. Luke had the right of it in RotJ. It wasn't perfect, but it was nearly so. They still had to kill Sidious, and that evil would splinter by this logic, but it would clear the way for peace, because Sidious's death was an act of love by a father for his son.

    I really hope IX has a similar message in its end. I seriously doubt it will.

    Edit: Some final thoughts. Good is compromise, or more importantly, discussion and understanding. It's long and drawn out without huge climaxes. It's very difficult to put to film, especially something where action is expected and war is in the title. GL did it with the OT, and did it well. He managed it by humanizing it to individuals that were human, with faults and qualities both. He also succeeded by centering it around something almost every one understand, if in their unique ways. Family. In his story it was family by blood, which is more common, but for viewers, we relate it to those we love... it is not difficult to extend it to our own situation.

    Evil is authoritarian. It's exciting because there's action and conflict. It's attack, kill or be killed. It's vengeance, it's striking out due to hurt and evil committed by and to the character. Evil translates well to these kinds of movies. Having the evil one(s) vanquished and punished feeds our own darkness. It is not the SW story, true victory does not come with dominance. It is an illusion, and it slips through your fingers like grains of sand.

    And that's what I hate about the ST so far. It uses that symbol of the right solution and twists it. Luke is made to be an idiot based on his life experience. Our world has never known a time where peace reigned, but regions have for a time, and usually this happens because someone comes to understand, has the wisdom to comprehend, that aggression and authoritarianism is not the answer. It dies when the new guard steps in, and the old steps down and chaos and evil once again prevails.

    Admittedly, we did not know what the SW story was when ANH came out. However, I believe had RotJ and ESB not told a grander story, SW wouldn't be what it is today. That throne scene, it bring out the message that love conquers all in a way that isn't at all corny. It took the plot of all 3 movies to get there, but it got there and it earned it. No one rolled their eyes when Luke wins despite not striking the final (or any) blow on the Emperor. The story told a universal truth, that aggression produces aggression, that exerting ones authority, makes others retaliate in kind. We know this to be true, we see it every day. Yet those we gravitate to, are those who are Zen. Calm, at peace, passive, loving. Those are the people we want in our lives. Those are the people we should have as leaders, and unfortunately, our system does not encourage them to the fore. Our political systems picks out those with ambition, who seek power and control and want authority. It is not perfect, but it is the best that we got.

    But that would make a hell of a boring SW movie. A Zen Luke as king of the galaxy, a benevolent monarch who treats everyone fairly? I get it, but that's why the OT is so great. It ends showing what works in the moment, but stays clear of showing the long term solution. Because the long term solution could not be titled something like Star Wars.
     
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    I posted these screenshots in another thread that has since been locked. It was the first 3 pages of comments from a Yahoo article about Rian Johnson defending TLJ. The article can be found here.

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    The comments go on and on with rarely anyone saying anything positive about the film. As this site represents the general public, I think it's a pretty solid indicator that most people do not like TLJ. This site is of course one example of many. All of the comments sections on the sites reporting this article are like this.

    My reason for posting was to make the point that with the nature of peoples' response to this film, will Disney be hesitant to continue forward with Rian Johnson's trilogy?


    People responded to the thread saying they could provide just as much positive response to the topic (when asked to do so they did not respond). I was also told to get a hobby, which I find to be incredibly disrespectful.

    I believe that TLJ is a terrible movie - for so many reasons, but I certainly respect others' views and don't criticize them for it. I (along with many, many others) feel like the film has severely damaged the potential of the franchise. I discuss it because I want Star Wars to be successful and continue for years to come. I don't believe our voices and thoughts should be shut down and forced into a single thread. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone - it can often lead to progress. With so many people upset about the film, openly talking about it and the response could very well make the franchise better in the future.
     
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    Bro it's just your inner circle.

    I thought I had the same problem and I finally had to admit that besides all my friends and all my work colleagues, I know absolutely noone who hated TLJ.
     
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