Thread for those who loved the movie

I enjoyed and like the movie. It good to see BB8 again. Also there sence where Porg show sad face when Chewbacca was about to eat porg meat. Thought I may or may not like Porgs, now I love them.
It's weird but expect when Rey using the force, in training she used the force doing handstand like Luke did in Return of the Jedi. Also before watching the movie, did fear most characters include BB8 would die like in Rouge One, but it didn't happen.

 

What is you favourite character in TLJ?

 

BB8 and Porgs.

 

If I were to rank the SW movies, the OT movies are definitely in the top three without question and the prequels are easily in the bottom three. Bothe episodes 7 and 8
fall somewhere in the middle. The movie has its flaws but overall the movie is a net positive for me.

The things I liked are:

Most everything on Ach-To
Most everything that takes place in Snoke's throne room.
The Holdo maneuver.
Luke's great heroic act in the climax.

 

Every time I think about the film, I just chuckle at the humor parts that I didn't even like in the course of the film. Hamill is great and needs to get more work, he's hilarious.

 

It's been a couple of weeks since I watched TLJ. Might have to make some time this weekend.

 

what do you mean might?
clearly you're in deprivation.
you need some Star Wars, stat! : D

 

A small thing that recently popped out in my mind. I was thinking about this scene, especially this moment:

Why would they put such a focus on this line (a change in framing is always a signifier of an important moment in a dialogue scene?) Here are my conclusions, in a visual form.

"You wonder why I keep a rabid cur in such a place of power?"

"Because a cur's weakness..."

"Properly manipulated..."

"Can be a sharp tool."


So, what I'm trying to say is that Kylo used Rey's lack of sense of belonging to bring her as a bait to Snoke, so that when Snoke was fully focused on her Ben wouldd be able do the dirty work (look at his expression's throughout the second scene at the Throne Room, he's clearly thinking about something else.) Yeah, the more I think about Kylo, the more garbage of a person he is. Also, a really cool setup (TLJ is full of them.)

 

but Rey isn't a rabid cur.

the point of the line is that Snoke is once again backhanding Ren himself by insulting Hux (i'm sure he does it to both of them).
yes, Ren is using Rey. and she is using him. and they both acknowledge it.
because each thinks the other is going to come to their side.
neither thinks they have to manipulate anybody because they both saw it in the Force.

the problem is that they're both wrong.

 

Agreed the weekends is the best time to watch one.

 

Is the rabid cur in this example Kylo Ren? Snoke is manipulating Kylo to get Rey to come to him.

I'm watching right now. This movie is so great.

 

so completely.

oh, whew. i was actually a little worried.
no one should ever not have Star Wars. XD

 

There are people who don't like The Last Jedi. I wonder if those people will ever be happy with Star Wars again? By all accounts Lucasfilm/Disney/Critics/Audiences loved the film. The reason Rain Johnson got another trilogy to work on is because he gets what Star Wars is in 2018. The Last Jedi fits perfectly in what Lucasfilm has done in animation/books/comics over the last ten years.

I assume with all the content in production some of those fans will find something to enjoy, but the people yelling in the mentions of Lucasfilm employees and complaining about SJW agendas are likely gone forever. Which is probably a good thing because they're toxic.

Lucasfilm is doing a good job of expanding Star Wars to new fans.

 

I doubt they will really be gone forever, it's all a lot of chest-beating nonsense. You're telling me that as a fan you can put up with The Phantom Menace and The Clone Wars being part of our official canon, but TLJ pushes you out of the fandom?



No, they are ALL coming back, unfortunately. I didn't like the prequels as much as I wanted to either, like most people, but I didn't throw a hissy fit and vow to be done with the franchise, because I knew that I wasn't. I just decided that the OT was what I still loved, and maybe I'll find the odd prequel thing that I like, which happened soon enough when we got the Clone Wars series.

 

I pretty much quit Star Wars after the PT. After the Disney announcement a friend of mine had recommended the Clone Wars series and I devoured it. The Clone Wars series makes me appreciate the PT era more. The movies certainly have the same problems, but I really like the stories told from that era.

 

People who hate/dislike TLJ and have voiced their opinion repeatedly on this forum are likely to REMAIN fans. They'll never like TLJ and will probably rank the ST as their least favorite of the trilogies by the end of it (depending on how JJ ties a bow on the whole thing with the last movie). There is little I like about TLJ; it is my least favorite movie of all SW movies... and yet I've already purchased my tickets for SOLO. And I will be seeing EPIX no matter what. What happens with Rian's trilogy is another matter altogether. My guess is that you all thinks he nailed what SW is in TLJ. Those of us who didn't like his movie see the EXACT opposite; to us he doesn't seem to get what made SW magic enough that it was around for him to do what we feel is an alternative take. I wouldn't anticipate gaudy box office numbers for his trilogy (in part due to some fatigue, in part due to it potentially being a story with characters that fans are not familiar with, in part due to hard core fans not having faith in Rian).

 

My point is that it's the other way around. Rian Johnson's vision is closer the Lucasfilm/Lucas/Story Group vision of Star Wars than the tiny segment of fans that hate The Last Jedi. Star Wars is creating new fans and expanding the audience. The company was happy with Rian Johnson because he gets their vision.

If you hate Rian Johnson this much I suspect a few more films like TLJ and you and a few others might check out.

 

What was the percentage for black people seeing this movie? Are you trying to say black people don't get Star Wars. I would say you are right if these are the stories they want to tell. As a black man, I doubt I will ever see another Star Wars movie again. If the only story they can tell is white people being seen as the center of the universe then no I will have nothing to do with that. There is more diversity at Nasa which is a leader in space exploration and discovery. Any nation or business that is worth it's salt wants the best people regardless of color, but it seems Star Wars wants to play by different rules in an even larger universe. Despite we know the brain is the same for all we still want to push stories that play on our differences instead of our collective strengths. That's a guarantee for creating more stupid people.

 

I didn't say anything remotely close to that. Also, are you trying to say you speak for all black people simply because you didn't like the film? You don't have to answer that because the answer is of course you don't.

 

I'm not sure on what basis you conclude that Rian Johnson's movie is closer to the LFL/Story group vision of SW, or that it has expanded the audience and creating new fans (but I haven't kept up with any new polls or press releases). It sounds like speculation on your part, and if so, that's fine - it is a message board, speculation is like 50% of what we do here. If not, and you have links to press releases, I'll read them. I just haven't seen any.

My speculation is that neither Rian (nor anyone else) will be allowed to do another TLJ, because it disenchanted more hard core fans than it created new ones. I think they took a risk and it hasn't paid off and I expect them to pivot back away from it. I think the most definitive indicator (as to which one of us is right) will be in what we see in EPIX. Will they tell the story they want or will they tell the story the fans want. I think they are going to cater to the fans.