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Time Jump TLJ to IX?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Lock_S_Foils, Jan 1, 2018.

  1. Lock_S_Foils

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    The biggest in-trilogy time jump between movies so far was 10 years from TPM to AOTC....

    Do you think there will be a time jump from TLJ to Ep IX?

    I think so definitely, to set things up. Maybe 3-5 years?
     
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    Another 10 years would have a nice symmetry.
     
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    i would like yeah between 3 and 5 years to allow the characters to grow and set up the stage for a great final act
     
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    I think everything between 2-10 years is possible and necessary.
     
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    Yes please. Doesn't need to be longer than the space between New Hope and Empire. Just long enough for some good comics and novels. Maybe a cartoon.
     
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    I'd say 4 years max. 10 would be interesting, but it might be too big of a jump.

    Kylo Ren was born in 5ABY and it's 34ABY now. In ten years he'll pretty much be 40. Seems a bit too old for Driver, to me. Though, he is 34 now, but his character seems younger than that.
     
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    It's just a matter of acting and make-up.
     
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    well, technically the biggest time jump was closer to 30 years, from RotJ to TFA, but ho hum... :p

    i think it'll be a less than 10, more than 2, year gap.
     
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    A year or two.
     
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    I guess it could be doable. It just seems like a weird direction to take the character.

    The other big problem with a time jump that big is that it would further disassociate the audience from the timeline. Right now, even two movies in, the Sequel trilogy era seems... alien still. Like, it's getting more familiar, but in something as familiar as Star Wars used to be, this era still feels pretty unexplored. It probably doesn't help that combined, The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi probably constitute only about a total week of time (The Force Awakens is just a few days, and TLJ seems to pick up right where TFA left off, and lasts roughly three days). In the 40ish years since the original trilogy, that's just a drop in the bucket.

    Really, given how little time has passed in the last two movies might be one of the most overlooked issues the rest of the trilogy faces, now. We need a big time jump for our characters to advance to where the need to be (not to mention, the rest of the galaxy) but at the same time, a time jump will mean that our characters' relationships will have advanced offscreen far more than what we've seen. Considering that these characters have so far just barely met each other, seeing their relationships having progressed a few years could be jarring.

    Granted, Empire Strikes Back did this, but that was paced a little differently. While ANH took place over a few days, we then see Empire being a few years later. The characters behave mostly where we left them- even with Han preparing to finally leave the Alliance, which was pretty much what he'd been preparing to do right before the battle of Yavin. Yet, via the dialogue, we're also reminded that they've had many offscreen adventures, and their friendships have grown alongside the Alliance. Then, we get another time jump between ESB (itself which also took place over an extended period of time) and ROTJ, which allows us to concievebly believe that Luke's jedi training has improved, and the Alliance has further grown.

    Honestly, TLJ probably should have had a time jump in the middle of the movie, kinda like ESB. Instead, not only do we get the implication that the film only covers a few days, but the fuel limit storyline actually sets a hard limit on exactly the amount of time that passes (I can't remember exactly, but it was about 2 or 3 days).

    I've mentioned before that as much as I love TLJ, it has big issues with scale, and that applies to its treatment of time as well.
     
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    TFA to TLJ was the only time in the saga where there wasn't a time jump, which should remain as the anomaly as opposed to the rule going forward. There was no other way to do it given the cliffhanger at the end of TFA so I don't take any issue with it. But I'm definitely looking forward to a time jump before IX filled with novels, comics, an animated series and sadly the passing of a princess.
    (leia)
     
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    I think 3 - 5 years is a pretty good guess. It's enough time to rebuild Rebellion into something that would actually be a threat to FO and for the galaxy to feel their boot and wake up to join. Also, for our heroes (and villains) to mature and establish themselves in their respective roles.
     
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    Did you notice I said “in trilogy” not between trilogies
     
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    there will definitely be a time jump.. but i imagine it won't be a biggie.

    i assume that the crawl will have an entire paragraph to explain what has happened to Leia. If they were to attempt to carry 9 straight on from 8 without a time jump.. this would present a big issue in my opinion.

    perhaps the crawl will also tell us that the resistance has re-grouped and formed an alliance with whoever was left from around the galaxy who were sympathetic to their cause.

    The resistance is practically gone at the end of TLJ, and the FO has a ridiculously overwhelming force. They also displayed the ability to track ships through hyperspace. It's not likely the resistance would stay hidden or last long... so again, i think it will be a small time jump. thinking 1 year perhaps.
     
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    The FO lost the supremacy which is a heavy setback i assume.
     
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    I'd say 5 years. May as well open with Leia's funeral.
     
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    agree.. but the resistance was down to like a dozen people, unless i missed something there?

    i just don't see how the Resistance could last out or stay hidden for that long.

    Kylo will be desperate to find Rey, for his own reasons... Hux will be desperate to destroy the last of the resistance.
    not sure how they could survive that long
     
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    They should go underground.Ninja-Jedi style.
     
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    haha perhaps :D

    if they hide in caves for 5 years so that the FO doesn't find them, then they won't be re-building the resistance for (what we all assume) the final big battle in ep9.

    if they try and rebuild the resistance fleet up and go around the systems gathering support... well.. the FO has a very particular set of skills they have acquired over many years of being the bad guys.. skills that make them a nightmare for people in the resistance. they will look for them.. they will find them.. and they will kill them. :D
     
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    I would think there would have to be a time jump. But at the same time...

    With the way things are left at the end of TLJ, I'm not sure if you can realistically have that long of a time jump. Of course this is just my interpretation of things but I do think the end of TLJ sets some stuff up in the romance department. Some have predicted a possible love triangle between Rey/Finn/Rose, others have predicted something between Rey/Poe, this isn't the place for predictions but it'd be a bit odd to set up some romance, and then revisit it after a five year gap. It's always possible that with such a long gap, the romance could maybe transpire off-screen but I find that equally odd.

    A dormant resistance does make sense for them to rebuild but what does the First Order do during this time? A dormant resistance means there's no one to oppose them. They can quite literally do anything they want and the resistance is just gonna let them do that while they rebuild?

    It's gonna be difficult. I'm still expecting a time jump and a pretty large one at that but it'll be very interesting to see how it's executed. I think we're gonna be picking up these characters/this story/this galaxy in a completely different place than at the end of TLJ.
     
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