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To Crawl, or Not to Crawl(Read b4 voting)

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by NotQyteNeo, Jul 25, 2017.

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Which film types should have an opening crawl?

  1. All Star Wars movies should have an opening crawl

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  2. All except stand-alone films should have a crawl (see explanation)

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  3. Only "main saga" films should have a crawl (see explanation)

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  1. NotQyteNeo

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    For the 2nd and 3rd options, there could be a difference. When I say "main saga", I of course, refer to the ongoing, roman-numbered series with the Skywalkers, Solos, Jedi, Sith, First Order, Empire, Rebellion, Resistance, Chewie, R2, 3-PO, BB-8, etc, etc. I.e - the "present day" GFFA saga. What other "sagas" are there? ... I personally, am hoping we'll get a KOTOR or Old Rebublic saga soon. And you guys/gals know better than me of the many other GFFA branches that could have continuing(multi-movie) sagas.

    In short, IMO, they got it right with Rogue One. If it is a stand-alone(single film) story, then I say "no crawl". If it is a part of a continuing story, then yes, give us a crawl.

    What are your thoughts? What other continued series would you like to see LSG bring to the big screen(or small screen, for that matter)?
     
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    I prefer just main saga. If we're ever blessed with a KOTOR saga, I'd want it to maybe have something similar, but to still be different enough to be obviously something unique
     
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    Instead of a scroll they could do a 2 or 3 screen opening narrated synopsis. Examples that come to mind are LOTR or the original Judge Dredd movie.
     
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    Yeah, something like that could be cool!
     
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    I went with 2nd, All Except.

    Can not say any more Rilly than you already have, Neo.
    Agree with ya 110%.
     
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    The way they did the opening setup for War for Planet of the Apes could work for a KOTOR saga as well.
     
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    The crawl is something like a prologue so you skip filming it or explaining it, safes a lot of time and money( explanation for the opening craw in1977). So I wouldn't stick to any rules inside or outside the Saga idea. They should write a crawl if they have something to say, if not just go for it-. What hurts the crawl idea the most is a useless crawl for the sake of it.
     
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    I voted for the Saga films as I like the idea of the opening crawl being saved for them.
     
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    After having seen Dunkirk, I really like how they did the "opening crawl". Not quite sure how it'd work in a Star Wars film, but I think it did such a good job that it allowed for the entire premise of the film to be clearly laid out to even someone unknowledgable of the history, using very few words.

    Ironically, I think that crawl would've worked wonders for Rogue One.
     
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    I'd say only saga films need opening crawls because they help to catch you up if you haven't seen the previous film in the saga recently. The saga is one giant story so it makes sense to have a brief refresher for anyone who isn't up to speed. For non-saga films, the backstory shouldn't be needed, the film should hold up on its own.
     
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    Makes sense - and if we get a KOTOR series, I won't complain at all if they do not have crawls. :)
     
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    I am pro crawl all films.

    So your telling me Han & Obi-Wan, so crucial to the Saga, don't deserve crawls?

    Please.
     
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    Rogue One has no crawl. Why? It's not a main saga film.
    Caravan Of Courage has no crawl. Why? It's not a main saga film.
    The Battle For Endor: An Ewok Adventure has no crawl. Why? It's not a main saga film.
    The Star Wars Holiday Special has no crawl. Why? It's not a main saga film.
    Droids (tv cartoon series) has no crawl. Why? It's not a main saga film.
    The Clone Wars (both variants) have no crawl. Why? They're not main saga films.
    Rebels has no crawl. Why? It's not a main saga film.

    See a pattern emerging here yet?!
     
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    The comics have crawls though.
     
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    Keep the crawls in the main saga films (and possibly in other saga films). It's a good way to explain what's happening to people who don't know much about the Star Wars universe, and to set up where each character is at the beginning of the film.

    That being said, one could argue that then the crawl needs to be in stand-alone films, but I disagree. I see the stand-alone films as more "for the fans," and have more room for directors to not follow the strict guidelines of the main saga films. If the stand-alone films are well-made, they can explain what's happening without using a crawl. If you are a fan of Star Wars, you probably already know what the basic plot will be. Those films are meant to be creatively different.

    If they make other film sagas, like KOTOR(which would be totally awesome), then yeah, a crawl would be nice. But for stand-alones and even TV shows, hold off on the crawl, and be different.
     
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