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TROS Excitement Read

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Deac421, Jun 19, 2019.

  1. techsteveo

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    For millions of fans, Star Wars is about the Skywalkers. There's literally only ONE film that didn't have a Skywalker in it. Rogue One was a tie-in and featured Vader heavily and had Leia at the end. It was the ultimate prequel to the most influential film in history. The only film to not include a Skywalker or a story connected with the Skywalkers is Solo, and it bombed at the box office.

    I believe Disney is marketing the end of the Skywalker Saga to build hype. They reserve the rights to change course. If their new films without any connective tissue to the Skywalker Saga don't do well, get ready for X, XI, and XII of the new Skywalker Saga.
     
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    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 24, 2019, Original Post Date: Jun 24, 2019 ---
    Sorry guys, I'm having some "glitch" issues with my posts. Problem is being worked on, I think.
    Anyhow, was going to say 2 things:

    Luke said, "no one is ever REALLY gone."

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    All endings are also beginings. I think it's healthy to move forward with new stories and generations. Yoda told Luke in TLJ that was one of the hardest lessons for all masters, the young ones must grow beyond them. It's hard to let go, but it is a natural part of life/the force.

     
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    But it didn't bomb because there weren't any Skywalkers. No, it failed because of the bad marketing and the reputations of TLJ. Han Solo is the most beloved SW character ever and he isn't a Skywalker. In the ST the most beloved character is Rey, again not a Skywalker (personally Kylo Ren is my most favorite character in the ST).

    Star Wars neither needs Skywalkers nor Jedi to be successful. What it truly needs is a good and exciting story with interesting characters.
     
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    Maybe for you and die hard fans. The General Public, which is what pays 90% of the ticket sales, want Jedi, Lightsabers, and Skywalkers. Taking the Force or Jedi out of SW is like taking the super powers out of Marvel heroes.

    You originally said Disney was going to release Solo as the first Disney SW film. Do you really think it would have been successful? Sorry, I don't. The General audience did not want a Solo origin film, especially without Harrison Ford.
     
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    I am super excited for TROS especially after the glory of TLJ which I now after many repeat viewings consider the greatest Star Wars film of all time. The teaser trailer as much as I loved it showed so little of the film and I simply cant wait to see the next little nugget.

    As for Solo no one will convince me otherwise. it was the marketing and scheduling that failed. Iger made a bad call not pushing it back to December release. Have said it many times with Solo a little over 1 year away we had Star Wars Celebration in Orlando. Solo had no presence, none at all. LucasFilm knew that the production wasnt going well with L&M and they chose to not show anything. Then shortly after they announce that L&M were dismissed and then shortly after they announce ROn Howard was taking over. From that point until title poster,which was just text, was released in fall 2017 the only marketing was Ron Howard's Instagram. Nothing, nothing, nothing. Then 1st trailer s released not during the Super Bowl but day after. Yes a short teaser was shown during Super Bowl. So marketing really didnt start until about 3 months before release at the same time Black Panther, Avengers: Infinity War and Deadpool were all already being marketed heavily. Solo should have been pushed off to December and marketing done all 2018.
     
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    The box office for Solo wasn't bad. The production costs were excessive because Ron Howard had to come in and reshoot the entire movie because two people didn't follow orders. I applaud Lucasfilm for caring enough to spare no expense to get it done right. A lot of other studios would have just released what they had and moved on to their next project.

    Solo isn't perfect, I don't think Alden Ehrenreich was right for the part, but I still enjoyed the movie very much. I've rewatched it several times and find it a very entertaining addition to the Star Wars canon. I'd be up for a sequel with Alden, and hopefully Enfys Nest shows up in Star Wars again somewhere.

    Even if you didn't like it, I don't think you should let it affect your anticipation for The Rise of Skywalker anymore than the Holiday Special affects The Empire Strikes Back.
     
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    I am not excited for it all all. I keep forgetting it is even coming out to be honest. I am pumped for the Mandalorian though.
     
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    Kind agree with this. Would the general public line up for an avengers movie about the origins of a SHIELD absent superheroes?

    I never thought of it that way and it makes a lot of sense to me since my fandom of avengers is much more casual. I enjoy the avengers movies but probably wouldn’t go see a shield focused film.
     
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    As others have pointed out, this will be the 3rd time people go to the theater thinking they are seeing the final installment of the Skywalker Saga. Just because they announced TRoS as "the conclusion and finale of the Skywalker saga" doesn't mean they can't change their minds in the future. It won't even be the same people making the decisions and I guarantee you that the future decision makers won't even remotely feel beholden to anything anyone says here and now.

    We have a timetable for B&W's trilogy, and it is currently 7 years from its announced completion. After that, virtually anything is possible. Heck, I wouldn't even consider the announced timetable as completely etched in stone (especially for the announced Avatar movies but that's another story). We don't know who will be making the decisions at Disney/LFL, let alone which direction they will want to go. Some CEO may say "you know, the main episodic SW saga made the most money, so let's invite everyone from the ST back and base a continuation story around whoever signs on."
    It was bad from the context of the fact that it is a Star Wars movie. It was bad at the box office and bad with merchandising. Personally, I thoroughly enjoyed the movie but fear we will never get an on-screen conclusion to the Crimson Dawn (Lord Maul) storyline. It speaks volumes that they set up a sequel but won't be giving one.
     
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    Exactly. What I think they should be doing is making a Trilogy set in ancient Jedi times. Perhaps even back to The First Knights (cough, there’s your title, cough). I’d love a Jedi lore Trilogy based on the discovery of the Force and how the early teachings shaped the galaxy and Jedi Order. Lightsabers and Force powers galore!

    The other trilogy that should be made should be based on Rey, Finn and the continued fight with whoever is leading the First Order. There’s no way the Resistance should be able to fully topple the First Order in TROS, especially after the Resistance being just a handful of people on the Falcon. Maybe we can finally get Finn to seek his family he never knew and be the bad ass he could be.
     
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    It would be really cool for an Old Republic trilogy to start out like The Fellowship of the Ring where the intro is a summation of the legendary past and formation of the Jedi told campfire style.

    "Thousands of years ago, before the discovery of hyperspace opened up the galaxy to exploration, a youngling sat under a tree, gazing at a crystal. The tree and the crystal spoke..."
     
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    I’m mega excited dude ;);) ..
     
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    Ohh! Good idea!!! Tie in some interaction with Ezra and Kanan and some of Mails search for ObiWan? An Easter egg dream!!
     
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