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Two key scenes from the trailers are not in the final movie

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Ilustre BOB, Dec 17, 2015.

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    I counted at least two important trailer scenes that are not in the movie:

    1. Kylon Ren in the snow igniting his lightsaber (from the first teaser)
    2. Maz Kanata giving Luke's lightsaber to Leia (from the second teaser)

    It's weird that these two scenes are not in the movie at all. In the final lightsaber fight I was waiting for the teaser scene where Kylo ignites the saber, but in the movie the scene is cut and the saber is already ignited.
     
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    The first one was purely made just to show off the lightsaber and villain. Looking now, it wouldn't have fit in the movie.

    Same goes for the Luke one, think it was made to also show off the saber.
     
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    I disagree. The scene where Kylo is stumbling in the snow (because he's very hurt) and ignites his lightsaber would be a powerful way to increase the tension during Rey and Finn scape in the woods.

    About the saber scene... Leia never meets Maz Kanata in the movie! Why would they shoot a scene with Maz delivering Luke's lightsaber to Leia specifically for the teaser? It makes no sense at all.
     
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    Not really, Kylo appears out of nowhere in front of them, which amps up the tension more than seeing him waiting there for them.

    Originally Maz was meant to be in some scenes at the Resistance base at the end, but they were cut.
     
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    I'm not actually worried about these scenes not being apart of the movie, it was great either way.
     
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    The bit where Maz gives Leia the lightsaber isn't in the movie?!
     
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    After seeing the movie I can say that the trailers were perfect. Gave just enough info while being misleading too. Also Maz's voice over about the eyes for example: "I have lived long enough to see the same eyes in different people. I see your eyes. I know your eyes." And while saying that we saw shots of Rey's face and Han's face. This was used very differently in the movie itself. I really like that they used this kind of stuff in trailers. You get to know a little bit but at the same time you don't get to know jack sh..
     
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    there must be a lot of cut footage
    i even think a whole sequence Jakku was cut since there are a few toys out there of Unkar's thugs we dont see in the film and some speeder vehicule that Finn drives. also , was the shot from the first teaser where Rey stars her speeder in a hurry and looks over her shoulder cut ?
     
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    I would imagine there is probably about another hour of footage that could have been in the movie.

    I'm happy it was cut though, the film is brilliant as it is, and making it longer could easily weaken it.
     
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    Yeah, some Lego sets of Rey fighting thugs in the desert appear to be from deleted scenes.
    Looking forward to seeing all the other deleted scenes, too. I'm guessing some Maz and Leia stuff.
     
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    It isn't. In the movie Maz Kanata and Leia never met each other. That's indicates some heavy rewrites during shooting.
     
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    Constable Zuvio is not in the movie too. :-( Bobbajo only seen for 30sec at most! :(
     
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    Based on MSW and MF scene leaks (especially the complete MF shooting schedule list), there's a lot of material cut from the movie... and rightly so, because there was already too much happening in the 136min they had.

    It's too bad they didn't reshoot an alternate version of Han finding the Falcon, as they could have cut what is easily the weakest portion in the movie, and kept some of the great material that didn't make it.

    To name a few cut scenes from the film:
    - Rey watches a family heading offworld while cleaning her loot. It's a great little shot to establish her isolation and desire for family belonging.
    - Rey has an encounter with Unkar Plutt on Takodana. It's kind of weird that he would show up there, and I am glad that it was cut, but it did introduce Chewbacca into the Castle. Something that is a bit overlooked in the movie... at least, that's how it seemed to me.
    - Maz explains to the group how she got the lightsaber through some crazy Force vision. I think the way they reworked some of those scenes ended up better, but it left us with more unanswered questions.
    - Stormtroopers appear in the underground chambers of the castle and Maz uses her "special powers" against them as she, Han, Finn, and Chewie fight their way to the surface.
    - Maz travels to the Resistance base with the lightsaber and gives it to Leia, telling her to give it to Finn. I'm guessing that they reworked this by giving Finn the lightsaber on Takodana, giving him an opportunity to use it earlier in the film to show that he's not completely clueless, making his final duel a bit more believable.
    - Starkiller Base had an additional complement of Star Destroyers and squadrons of TIE fighters in orbit to defend it. The Resistance used a special ship/weapon to destroy the Star Destroyers, AND to break through their defensive shields. All of that was cut, and the shield problem was solved in a scene which was a bit awkward. I think the original sequence would have worked a lot better, and given an opportunity to showcase some actual space combat.
    - Kylo Ren finds the crashed Falcon, sits in the cockpit and reflects on things. Cutting this is understandable as they produced enough material to establish what they needed to about the character. If they really want to, they could use it again in a later movie.
    - After Finn finds Rey again on Starkiller, they steal a First Order snowspeeder, and there's a brief sequence with that. Not a huge loss, but you can see the speeder behind them when they appear at a certain point of the movie.



    Unkar's thugs are in the movie... they're the ones who try and grab BB-8 at the trading post that Rey beats up.
    Toy's take a bit of liberties.


    I don't really remember seeing Sarco Plank either.
    Maybe if we looked closer, we would see them in the background?
     
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    I would have been happy in the film ran 2:30 or even 2:45, if it slowed the pace down some. The film jumped out the gate and did not slow it's pace until the end, and unfortunately, my excitement level diminished because of that. I would have loved to have seen them expand on the characters and universe more.
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    I would have been happy in the film ran 2:30 or even 2:45, if it slowed the pace down some. The film jumped out the gate and did not slow it's pace until the end, and unfortunately, my excitement level diminished because of that. I would have loved to have seen them expand on the characters and universe more.
     
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    It looks like a LOT of Maz Kanata was cut from the final film. I wonder what went wrong... showing how he found the lightsaber seems like a huge plot point that should be delivered to the audience.
     
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    Some UK tabloid made claims that Lupita struggled with motion capture work, which JJ Abrams dismissed shortly after.

    It's more likely they cut the material because the movie already had too much going on...


    I'll be interested to see which cut scenes end up in the novelisation.
     
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    Um... if this tabloid thing is true, that means Maz won't be in Episode VIII... that would suck. I actually loved the character and the acting.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it's not true... at least not entirely.
    I'm pretty sure that it was all to do with screen-time limitations.
     
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    That would explain why Rian didn't start writing Episode VIII until principal photography on VII was done.
    I wonder if we'll get an "extended cut" of the movie?
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    The first one actually IS in the movie. We see that shot during Rey's 'force vision' sequence when she grabs Anakin's lightsaber for the first time. It was lumped in there with the shot of Luke with his hand on Artoo & the Knights of Ren massacre.
     
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    Are you sure about that? I don't remember that scene being in the forceback...
     
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