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SPECULATION Unknown Regions in Episode 8?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Porkin's Beans, Jul 31, 2017.

  1. Porkin's Beans

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    Just wondering, if there are any thoughts out there about the Unknown Regions being (or at least a mention of them) in the Last Jedi. Personally, I think it would better to mention them toward the end of the film, as a setup for episode 9. It would also be a good place to bring anyone taken captive during the Last Jedi to further set up the plot for episode 9 and to have any final confrontations. What are your thoughts about it?
     
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    Well apparently one of the novels (I won't say which one in case it hasn't been read) implies that deep in the unknown regions a hidden power may lie, or the unknown regions have a major part to play in future events. So there's certainly a good chance they'll play a part in TLJ or future films. I personally think it would be great if one of the films included a journey beyond where most beings in the galaxy have traveled and the events of the character's journey all take place in mysterious ancient force settings.
     
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    Yes I have read the novel your talking about! I really think Luke, Rey, or both will eventually end up there by Episode 9 for a final confrontation with whatever this hidden power is. I think it plays in part with what Luke was probably looking for on Ach-To. He was probably looking for ways to properly combat those who misuse the force for wrong doing once and for all. He (or Rey) will probably come to realize that the knowledge acquired will need to be used to end whatever is in the Unknown Regions which I assume to be called REN.
     
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    Whoa, I know so much about Star Wars, but for some reason, even after a year, I have for some reason never even contemplated why they're the "Knights of Ren". Perhaps I'm too busy reading and working and I imagined it would just resolve itself without my "expert" input. I'm wondering now if Disney isn't going to steal a chapter from TOR and have the secret, ancient Sith Emperor out there, and Snoke is just his acolyte or puppet, trying to rally forces to the real Emperor. After all, in the knew canon, I think the Republic is going to be legitimately 1000 years old. Instead of 25,000 years old and reformed 1000 years prior after reformation. These stolen TOR events could just be moved up to the present trilogy.
     
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    Check out Bastion of Kuul's you tube channel. One of his theories relates to REN, and its possible connection to TOR. He stated that REN may relate to one of the greatest TOR characters -- REVAN! It seems peculiar that they designed Kylo's helmet somewhat similar to Revan's without any explanation. Also regarding the name REN, words have a way altering in form and meaning after a long period of time. So to me REN = Revan is not that far of a stretch.
     
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    I expect some sort of showdown at Rakata Prime in episode IX
     
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    I'd love to know which book(s) so I can check em out.
     
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    There’s been mention of some of the FO weapons using Kyber from a source in the unknown regions so maybe we will :)
     
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    Why do you expect that?

    I mean, it'd be really cool, but I'm curious about the reasoning.
     
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    "Starkiller Base was a mobile ice planet located in the Unknown Regions that served as a stronghold of the First Order thirty years after the Battle of Endor.

    In spite of its collapse the Empire's legacy survived in the Unknown Regions of the galaxy where former members of the Imperial Military plotted their return to power.

    Astrography

    The First Order claimed the large, unexplored region to the west of the Core as its heartland, with the emergent power expanding across the vast swaths of space left untouched for millennia by galactic explorers. The result of a cold war between both the New Republic and First Order, a narrow region of neutral systems known as the Trans-Hydian Borderlands existed between New Republic and First Order space. Despite frequent First Order incursions into Republic space, the Galactic Senate did not wish to spark a conflict, and thus was limited to formal diplomatic protest. Nonetheless, by thirty years after Endor, the Order operated mining operations in the artificial asteroid field known as Pressy's Tumble in the Outer Rim Territories."

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/First_Order
    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Starkiller_Base

    The First Order/Starkiller Base was in the Unknow Regions in TFA.
     
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    Because it's on the canon star map and still hasn't been mentioned since. It has to be there for some reason and it ties in with the 'something' in the unknown regions, mentioned in both the Aftermath trilogy and Thrawn. So I'm expecting Snoke to be someone, maybe an ancient Jedi who discovered the ruins of the Rakata empire and learned something of their philosophy and technology.
     
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    Interesting. That would be a really cool way to possibly set up some KOTOR stuff, too...
     
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    Funny how you brought up Rakata. The Celestials, the ancient superior humanoid race, are from this area of the Unkonwn Regions, if I remember correctly. If you remember the Overlords/Morris story arch in Clone Wars Season 3, the "Ones" of Mortis - the Father, the Son, and the Daughter - were of that Celestial race. The Son, aka the Fanged God, represented the dark side of the force. The striking thing about the Son is that he could pass for a young Snoke. That was probably my favorite story arch of the series. It showed archetypes of the Force - the dark (the Son), the light ( the daughter) and the gray ( the father). So much speculation of the Force could be thought of from those episodes, including speculation about future Star Wars content. If you have never watched them, please do so!
     
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    I am annoyed with how Unknown Regions have been used.

    The "Map" lists a bunch of the left 1/3rd of the galaxy as the UK.

    But Empire's End talks about it like once through it there is another galaxy.

    They really need to pick a single explination and stick with it.
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    I am annoyed with how Unknown Regions have been used.

    The "Map" lists a bunch of the left 1/3rd of the galaxy as the UK.

    But Empire's End talks about it like once through it there is another galaxy.

    They really need to pick a single explination and stick with it.
     
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    We'll know Star Wars has really jumped the rathtar if Snoke invites Kylo to explore his "unknown regions." (nudge nudge)
     
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    I dont know that we will actually get to see the unknown regions in episode 8, but I'd say for sure it will be mentioned.

    Lucasfilm has been setting up the unknown regions in multiple books (Empires End and Thrawn) and is clearly building toward something that will likely be part of the sequel trilogy. If not in episode 8 than probably episode 9.
     
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    As a reminder - a galaxy has between 10^8 and 10^14 stars! Sure, one third of a number is less than the base number, but even 1/3 of 10^8 is a gargantuan value, so saying that within the Unknown Regions there's a galaxy of new possibilities isn't a stretch at all.
     
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    I agree. There will be probably a mention of it toward the end of episode 8 as a set up for events in episode 9. The books seem to have set this up as a safe harbor for some mysterious evil that could grow without fear of being touched by any outsiders. It seems the first First Order has exclusive knowledge on how to navigate this part of space. This could set up a possible mission in Episode 8 or 9 for the Resistance, Luke, Rey, etc. in acquiring coordinates for navigation through the Unknown Regions to ultimately confront whatever forces dwell within this area.
     
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    I agree. But the verbage in Empire's End talks aboutgetting through the Unknown Regions and finding new Galaxies. They imply that Wild Space/Unknown Regions is between galaxies but the most recents maps have it lingering on the left edge (only the left edge) extended into what is practically the middle rim.
     
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    I see.
     
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