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Unnecessary Character Death

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by theborgv, May 5, 2016.

  1. theborgv

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    Okay, let me talk about one of Gareth Edward's previous film. Godzilla. Overall I liked that film. But one of my disappointment in that film is the death of Bryan Cranston's character, which I think was totally unnecessary. His character could have gone further in providing scientific stuff about the sonar thing. Instead, we were left with a main character who can barely act.

    My fear is that Rogue One might have an unnecessary death just because. I don't want to loose good characters just because.
     
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    Yeah....the hu-man aspect of that Godzilla-movie...not the most interesting or binding aspect of that monster-franchise...

    But in case of Rogue One....the death of all and everyone of that team is something I would look forward too...Because...its a suicide mission, right? Why not show what it is...
     
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    As we -know- those characters don't show up in "later" movies/episodes, it wouldn't surprise me if a Vader-induced bloodshed was in motion for us in R1... And who wouldn't like to see that??
     
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    Plus the whole time we get the vibe that R1 is expected to be "different" from the Main-Episode-Sage of Star Wars. This speaks to me as in R1 has no "No Good Ending" maybe?
     
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    So I guess we may be getting a true Saving Private Ryan or Fury ending? Where pretty much everyone dies except maybe one character? Almost makes me wonder how a Tarantino Star Wars film would look like..
     
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    I think I would be OK with either the rebels who stole the plans to survive but I consider the start of ANH would be more poignant if we know by the time we see the Tantive IV being boarded by Vader that the sacrifice made by Jyn Erso & Co. is about to be rendered fruitless. I mean, the opening crawl says:

    It is a period of civil war. Rebel spaceships, striking from a hidden base, have won their first victory against the evil Galactic Empire.

    During the battle, Rebel spies managed to steal secret plans to the Empire's ultimate weapon, the DEATH STAR, an armored space station with enough power to destroy an entire planet.

    Pursued by the Empire's sinister agents, Princess Leia races home aboard her starship, custodian of the stolen plans that can save her people and restore freedom to the galaxy....


    Nothing there says that the price of getting those secret plans was to lose the Rebel squad sent to get them in the first place. But the issue here is that we don't hear again from those Rebels. It might mean that as far as we know from the tv series Star Wars Rebels, there is a considerable amount of Rebel cells spread all across the galaxy, so maybe they went back into the shadows as soon as their mission was completed and yielded the spotlight to the Big Three lol. BUT if that happened, it would be sort of unfair to have that secret rebel squad there at the Throne Room as spectators rather than receiving the honors as well (maybe the day was saved by Organa/Skywalker/Solo/Chewbacca & droids, but the plans had to be stolen by someone in the first place).

    Maybe I watch too much Game of Thrones but I do not feel optimistic regarding the fate of the Rebels who stole the plans in Rogue One.
     
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    I think you are most likely correct. If the rebels are undercover, which from the trailer it appears, my best uneducated guess is that they steal the plans in the middle of the battle, see the battle is going bad, send one of them to transmit the plans to leia, and blow their cover to sabotage the empire from within. This causes the empire to lose the battle and of course, Vader kills the spies. Perhaps takes one prisoner, so that their fate is unknown and leads to a potential sequel later.
     
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    I think I get your point, but I do want some of the main characters (if not all) to meet their end. But it should be done well, not just "Whelp, that just happened."
     
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    Death would be the easiest ways to explain the lack of their presence felt during the main movies.
     
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    It certainly would be, but it was also add to the sense not even the most skilled Rebels can survive the Empire's might. Hence the reason why they are stealing the Death Star plans.
     
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    I think it comes with a price. Knowing that R1 wont have any ties to the SW episode saga. We know the outcome, Princess Leia ends up with the plans. So from R1 someone will die and I think the majority of them will. I think they will add the opportunity for the Rebel cell to encounter the emperor/Vader to kill them but we all know thats not going to happen. Just leaving the story with the ending of them stealing the plans and thats it is boring. They would have to die for the greater good. its always like that in all SW. a sacrifice. Hope to see the Royal Guards chop head down tho. protecting the emperor. I can see that in R1.
     
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    No dead in a story environment is unnecessary....by defintion.
     
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    Totally get that feeling as well, but we have to remember that this is a war/heist film. People die all the time, on and off screen, for the most random and confusing and depressing of reasons. If it happens with the only character in a biopic, that's just messed up. But a war film? Appropriate. But this is Star Wars, so I expect some significance to these character's and their deaths.
     
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    Yeah and this movie is trying hard to go for a gritty "Saving Private Ryan" style so at least half of the cast should die, realistically speaking (they all can't be heroes).
     
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    Even if they die, they are probably still heroes. As the job they did basically ensured the destruction of the Empire, with a little help from a certain unknown farm boy.
     
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    ...and a Princess and a Scoundrel.

    I reckon their deaths would add more significance to ANH. There we would understand why it was so important to get the plans to the Rebels. Why the Princess was desperately looking for Master Kenobi and sent Artoo with the plans to Tatooine to look for him. Then the last words of that hologram would have added weight: "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope."
     
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    I agree, Bryan Cranston was the best part of the movie.
    It hurted the whole movie that they killed off the most believable character in the first 30 minutes.
    The movie should have been focused on Godzilla, Bryan Cranston and Ken Watanabe.
    I was not one second interested/invested into the young soldier storyline. (boring and very generic)
     
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    Yes they fought for a cause they believed in & died heroes, sure they did that for the Yavin heroes to.
     
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    What about the Bacta Tank dying? hehe
     
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    Well yeah but that doesn't mean hat it was necessary for them to die necessarily
     
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