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UPDATE: Disney Holding Off On Star Wars Standalone Movies, Rethinking Development, and Why Thats Actually Great for the Franchise

Discussion in 'SWNN News Feed' started by SWNN Probe, Jun 20, 2018.

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    How true is that? With people scrambling to buy up monthly subscriptions like Moviepass, and AMCs new subscription, I think people want to watch as many movies as they can at an affordable price every single month. People would be jumping for joy that not 3, but 4 movies worth watching came out within the span of a few months.
     
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    I will eat crow and Facebook Live it if Rian Johnson's trilogy ever sees the light of day.
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    It would have suffocated more at Christmas.
     
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    I find this rumor incredibly disappointing. The spin-off movies were designed for the purpose of telling more daring and different stories from the episode films audiences are accostomed to seeing.
    I am normally an optimistic guy, so the three silver linings would be:
    1) this rumor is false (however, I doubt it, from the number of sources.)
    2) Spinoff will be brought back in the near future due to fan pressure to tell certain stories (like Obi Wan and Boba Fett.)
    3) the planned Star Wars stories will be told through television and/or streaming. (Most likely bet.)
     
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    I find this disappointing too. I can't believe they have one flop and then Disney decides to scrap everything, shows just how the only thing they care about it money. Meanwhile they release thousands of overrated Marvel movies without any kind of artistic quality. It seems to me that Lucasfilm was trying to do something great with all their future projects, as they have been doing till now, unfortunately nowadays the only thing that matters is box office.
    I also feel some of the fan backlash might have contributed with this to an extent. So congratulations people, you made it. (And no, this isn't Disney listening to fans. This is just Disney listening to their own wallet)
     
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    Making movies costs money. Making Star Wars movies costs a lot of money. That's the unfortunate reality we live in. So, they only way for them to keep making more Star Wars movies is to make sure that the movies are profitable enough.
     
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    Too many movies devalue the franchise. That's my opinion. Everything must be in moderation. Clearly, that's not true for Marvel fans, but I have grown tired of these movies quickly.

    But if I had to choose, I'd say first cancel RJ's trilogy, kick him out.
     
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    It's not that they went bankrupt. Solo even made a little bit more than its budget. What I mean is, there has only been one movie that flopped. They can't say "Star Wars spin-offs aren't profitable" when there has only been two entries, and one of them was actually successful. They could have at least continue production in the next one if the rumours that it was already in development are true.
     
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    I wasn't that invested in Solo. The previews at IW piqued my curiosity, but not enough to buy a ticket. I'm hoping it gets to Netflix, but even if it doesn't, good chance I'll buy the blue ray.

    I wasn't that interested in a Kenobi movie. I just felt the time line wouldn't be conductive to a very good story. It would have been neat to see more of Tatooine, but honestly, I don't feel character prequels are the way to go.

    I was curious about Bobba Fett, but I think it's quite possible it would have suffered the same fate as Solo. Interesting, but I can wait if the competition is strong enough. I think it's success or failure would have hinged on its competition.

    All that said, the spin offs is what I was looking forward to the most out of SW. I'm not interested in IX at all, and assuming they're moving forward on an RJ trilogy, I'm kind of mixed about that one too. So I was hoping they'd come up with good ideas for spin offs. I was afraid they'd keep basing them off of characters backgrounds though. After the PT, I really didn't want to know Vader was a self entitled brat lol. Sometimes seeing a character before their peak is somewhat of a let down.

    I'm actually surprised Solo's failure at the box office is getting such a hard reaction from Disney. I'm honestly not sure what to think of it. Are they punishing SW fans for not supporting it more? Are they honestly concluding that spin offs don't work and keep making event/saga films? Are they confused and just want to wait until after IX before they move forward on anything? So many questions. As a SW fan, I feel like in the 90s when I had nothing tangible to look forward to.
     
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    "In development" most likely means, that somebody was writing a script and drawing concept art. It's not like they were filming anything. The real problem is that general audiences aren't interested in an Obi-Wan movie and Solo showed, that the Star Wars brand alone is not enough.

    I think these people are too smart and experienced to care about punishing the fans. More likely they are focusing their efforts rather than being all over the place.
     
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    I don't know, maybe we are overeacting. Later or soon more spinoffs will be made.
    For me are sad news. I wanted to see more Solo, Obi Wan and company... (in fact, probably I want to much spinoffs, like one with Harrison and Mark, and others between 5 and 6, or after TFA, or during the Old Republic, and that's impossible). Who knows, probably is a smart decision, just because there are so many SW projects.
    I admit it. I was disappointed with TLJ but I never thought in not seeing Solo. In fact, I have seen it 3 times in cinema. The more I see, the more I like it, like RO. For me, spinoffs have the same SW spirit like OT. Both films are so solid, serious and perfectly fit in the whole universe. Incredible well made.

    In my opinion, Disney and LF have made good decisions and great SW movies and they have done things right so far. I trust in K.K. more than any other producer in the whole industry. Come on, people, there are full of silly nonsense blockbusters out there. This 4 new SW movies have what I always wanted in a SW movie, even with my TLJ disappointment.

    Now, just want a good E9, (sure it will be, J.J. doesn't know what pressure is), a good and coherent tv series and a good Indiana Jones film (and Willow!!).
    And hope spinoffs will return one day!
     
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    1. Refocusing on one project at a time - Would this be so they can run a tighter ship regarding continuity and crossovers throughout the canon? Just a question, don't shoot me down.
    2. Disney is done experimenting with new or unusual filmmakers - Isn't Rian Johnson considered one of these? Again, just a question.
     
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    They are still making the cartoon and the tv show. Nothing is probably going to change when in comes to handling the overall canon.

    Not anymore at this point.
     
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    My take On it is that 1) Yes that’s exactly what they are doing LFL tried the Marvel Studios approach of having multiple films in development at the same time & after several films with production troubles which may have been made worse by LFL focusing on too meny projects at once decided to go back to a more traditional approach just have one film being worked on at a time so that they can focus all there resources on to 1 project at a time.
    Know I know nothing about the size of these companies but I suspect that LFL is a much smaller company then Marvel Studios

    2) If he had not done TLJ (Which weather you love or loathe it is the film with the least production problems) then yes he probably would be classed as one but he now has TLJ under his belt & they know what they are getting when working with him.

    Edited to fix some spelling mistakes.
     
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    :rolleyes::confused:

    Sorry, I couldn't find the "wtf?" or "are you actually being serious?" emoji's
     
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    Nah I doubt it. Definitely the TV shows, but I don't think they're going to give up on major box office pull, especially since it'll be hard to attach big names to a straight-to- streaming service until it gets a decent reputation. Maybe one day, but I doubt it for the time being.
     
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    Fair point @StoneRiver, but like Addi, I read that as 'done experimenting with new or unusual filmmakers' from this point on... JJ and Rian (love 'em or hate 'em) both delivered their movies without any (publicised) production issues, whereas both Edwards and Lord/Miller got late subbed and Trank and Trevorrow fell out of favour before committing anything to film.
     
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    i hope they haven't given up, but are just thinking about who they hire more carefully. maybe the vetting process has been too loosey goosey.

    i honestly think you can spin this news anyway you want to. glass half-full? glass half-empty.

    i'm half-full myself: i think stepping back and reconsidering the spin-offs is smart. not just because Solo didn't kill it at the box office, but because there are too many irons in the fire (ix, johnson trilogy, tv show, cartoon, other eu books, etc.). and maybe especially because ix will determine the future of the saga in certain ways.
     
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    Summed up my feelings perfectly there. I don't think these stand alone films will really excite me until they stop doing "filler" films that build up or are in between films we already have, you can't get emotionally invested in a film when you know what the outcome has already been.

    If the new movies following episode IX are set in a completely different time period, old republic for example, these stand alone films would work great in setting the Galaxy up and introducing us to it.
     
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    perhaps it's even a glass full to the very top scenario?

    it's remotely possible that someone walked into the LF think tank and lumped a 'holy crap!'.. rip-snorting idea in front of them. the kind of idea that stopped everyone in their tracks and realized they needed to stop (not actually confirmed yet) production on other projects.
     
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    that's the spirit! : D

    this is a saga that expounds on hope in every movie they put out, after all.
     
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