UPDATE: Disney Holding Off On Star Wars Standalone Movies, Rethinking Development, and Why Thats Actually Great for the Franchise

..a little time out for all of us to settle, to cool down and to restart with new enthusiasm

 

What I have been saying forever. The only reason we want an Obi-Wan movie is Ewan. It is all about the actor. That is not how you make a good movie. I truly believe the reason that it was never truly announced. LFL could never come up with a good story that doesnt follow the canon.

Boba Fett is similiar reason. People want a movie because of a cool suite of armor. Nothing more.

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Most people have no idea what Moviepass or Sinemia are. Cant even count AMC yet.

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Would have had time to market it. Tell me what movie this Christmas will be a $2 billion box office movie? Think about this at Celebration last year I dont recall Solo even being mentioned let alone having a panel. They knew they had problems and hadnt change directors yet. Then no marketing until first weekend in February.

 

whilst $2b is a stretch.. Disney's flag ship movie for 2018 comes out in December. it's even possible that it's one of the reasons that Solo was shoe-horned into a horrible release slot.

i wouldn't call the Xmas movie my spoonful of sugar lol.. but it could be a biggie at the box office.

 

I totally get what you mean. I was also hoping for these movies to go off the beaten road quite a bit more.

But I think they kinda had to prove themselves first. The idea of a standalone movie is great, but it's easier to test the idea with something foolproof ("maybe a Han Solo-centric movie" says the exec in 2013, unaware of his impending doom). Then after that succeeds, you can move on to a Zillo Beast disaster film, the art house Gungan love story, or what have you.

The galaxy is big and has endless potential, but first you had to sell the idea.

I'm not sure we can for sure say what caused Solo to perform poorly, but here's the thing: there certainly was intent among the fan base for it to under perform. Regardless of how effective the boycotts were, we gotta flush out this toxicity before trying anything like this again.

 

Just wondered if anyone had seen this. Some interesting ideas...and it incorporates Obi Wan. The story starts at 2:50

 

Whilst I recognise that a lot of what people were expecting was never really official, this news does most definitely suck if taken at face value.

 

At the end of the day, Disney oversees a lot of different franchises and will be acquiring even more (the rights to the X-men movies and more of the Spider-Man universe with 21st Century Fox). It will be interesting to see, going forward, how they prioritize movie releases. As we saw with Solo, Disney was pretty vocal about their support for Infinity War at the expense of Solo. To me, this is a good indication that they would rather focus on the big draw Star Wars movies (like episode 9) and work the release schedule so it doesn't overlap with big draw movies for other franchises. I would love more stand-alone films, but I think it may be a long time before we get the chance to see any new ones since there is Rian Johnson's trilogy and the Benioff and Weiss series already confirmed and the poor box office performance of Solo definitely shows that the smaller movies just can't compete with the heavy hitters for other franchises.

 

honestly this reminds me of HBO in the Rome/Deadwood era.
two mega-hit shows, but they panicked about budgets and costs and upcoming projects and abruptly axed both shows rather than at least attempt to conclude them reasonably.

i think Lucasfilm is at least doing this more mindfully than HBO did back in the day.

 

I agree that this probably isn't out of panic. Just merely an observation that there is always a bigger fish and that Lucasfilm does have to report to Disney at the end of the day and play by their rules to a certain degree.

 

My point is that Avengers was much more competition then Mary Poppins sequel. Would also say that Avengers was more direct competition. Hell they could have simply pushed back Solo to August and had 3 more months to market Solo.

 

I don't know about that. Mary Poppins could be quite the heavy hitter at the theaters.

 

a good call.

it's also possible that James Mangold (is that the last person supposedly taking over?) offered up a complete stinkpile of an idea for the already delayed Fett movie.. and it made them sit around a table and think that with what happened to the production with Solo - maybe it's better to steady the ship now and put some new plans together instead of the world hearing of more movie issues. #spitballing

pretty much anything other than what they did would have been better.

I haven't wanted to get into this really, as there are many on here that only want to hear that Solo did badly because they didn't like TLJ.. but here's my 1 cent:-

Solo had no chance of making good box office numbers - for the following combined reasons..
low anticipation
too close to saga movie release
bad press because of production issues
marketing starting too late.. and was too little (think they knew it was a waste themselves at that point)
some negative social media from TLJ unhappiness

and then there's the biggie you mentioned.. the week it actually released. I can only give my thoughts and experience of the run up to Solo and the weekend it released, but i lost count of how many viewings i did of RP1, IW and DP2. I only watched Solo a couple of times (ok 3 ) and i'd normally be camped out at the cinema for 2 weeks when a new SW movie is released.. i couldn't afford it, and my mate was completely burned out seeing movies (yeah a lightweight.. i'm looking to upgrade).
also, when Solo released there were still multiple screens available (at my local Cineworld) for IW and multiple screens for Deadpool 2.. they were still selling enough tickets for them to warrant it.
I went to see Solo again the other night. Solo was on one 2d screen, so was IW, so was DP2 and the new Dino movie was pretty much on the rest of them (we got it early in the UK).

whilst the current choice of movies for someone like me makes it a wonderful time to be alive.. it was literally the worst week they could have chosen.
why they didn't pick a date a couple of months down the line like you suggested.. gawd knows @KeithF1138

Solo had zero chance of getting big numbers. i'm sure Deadpool 2 suffered from it's release date as well.

the irony is that after all it's issues, it's a bloody good SW movie (imo).

 

If it was still under his control, we wouldn't be having this conversation. There would be no ST, no spin off films, and the death star exhaust port would still be a plot hole (pun not intended). We would of just had a closure to TCW and another SW video game that featured Darth Icky and another OP jedi. SW wouldn't be much. 1313 was still in developmental hell and we wouldn't have any new content.

Hey a fellow PT defender. Glad someone help me take on the beating. Just like you I refuse to acknowledge that the TLJ is worse than the PT. it's going to take a lot more than 1 movie to sway me from the 10+ years of hate that the PT received.

 

I think thats why Deadpool 2 was moved up to be the week before Solo rather then the week before Incredibles 2. Dispensable cash. For many people 3 big movies in one month is just 2 much cash. $10-$20 per ticket plus snacks is a lot of money for a lot of people.

 

Snoke is dead and he needs to be dead. His death (and his whole character) was for Kylo Ren's development. If he's still alive, then everything was useless and it weakens Kylo Ren's character. The remaining stuff is way too complicated and also kinda stupid. Haha! Star Wars is a simple story about good and evil.

Welcome to the Cantina btw.

 

I can see the benefit in slowing down and focusing more on making fewer, better movies - but what I don't understand is why this has to mean "no more standalone films." Rogue One happens to be my favorite Disney SW movie by far, and Disney also seems to have considered it a success. And while Solo was not as good, I still liked it better than the ST.

 

without some actual announcements and something useful for us to chew on.. it's all guesswork. all we can do is hold onto our butts till we get something official

 

you own butts, please. hands to yourself! XD

 

did you feel an ass posting that?

so immature of me to crack a butt joke

 

don't be a bum.
do it again and there might be spanking.