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UPDATE: Disney Holding Off On Star Wars Standalone Movies, Rethinking Development, and Why Thats Actually Great for the Franchise

Discussion in 'SWNN News Feed' started by SWNN Probe, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. RoyleRancor

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    Save this pls
     
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    I feel like that should have been the role of the saga films though. Get the episodic movies out of the way first. Prove you can land a solid trilogy before diverting your energies into side projects. Don’t muddy it up by interspersing them. It’s too much too soon.

    I’m not a huge fan of LOTR, but I think the execution strategy there was flawless. One story, three logical parts, all shot at once, one unified vision, distributed each year. That makes sense to me. Throwing a stand-alone Aragorn or Gandalf side movie in there doesn’t benefit that. It just detracts from the forward momentum they’re trying to build. The tactic, to me, seemed doomed to failure from the go.
     
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    Frankly, I think Disney and Lucasfilm should just stick to the "side projects", until they can find someone who can create a decent trilogy or serial. Right now, I'm more impressed by their stand alone films than serial films released by Disney.
     
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    The good news on the front is Ewan has a ton of room to reprise the role. He still doesn't even look within 20 years of Sir Alec and may not even 10 years from now.
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    I think it is really the Ewan movie with dubious story threads for a Kenobi picture and interest in an Obi-Wan movie otherwise would be next to nil and until that changes it is probably a less than stellar idea looking to be a flop anyway.

    Show of hands, who wants a Kenobi flick regardless of Ewan?
     
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    I'd only want an Obi-Wan movie it's a musical that reunites the Moulin Rouge cast.
     
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    Ew ew ew, Nicole Kidman as Ackmena, the Bea Arthur role from the Holiday Special. We could call it ‘Rouge One’. Oh my god, I’m totally on board now!!! :D

    EDIT: Wait, no, 'Rouge Wan'
     
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    Everyone is clamoring for Mara Jade no? Kidman is Mara Jade but is into Kenobi instead.

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    Well this article on GMA is interesting given that Disney owns both Lucasfilm and ABC News. Maybe these stand-alone films still have some life in the much nearer future than I originally thought they would.

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    But we always knew that.
     
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    But what's interesting about this article is that it states the films are still in development while the collider article stated that all those associated with the projects are no longer working on them (particularly the rumored Obi Wan film) which is why I said they might come out sooner than I initially thought. After the Collider article, I figured we wouldn't get any other stand-alone films until after the RJ trilogy and the other series. This makes me think that may no longer be the case. Also, as I mentioned, Disney being the parent company for both Lucasfilm and ABC news is what makes this more interesting for me.
     
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    Plausibly the denial is denying something I'm not sure was ever actually asserted - that all non Saga films have been cancelled or otherwise put on hold.

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    Lucasfilm sources on Thursday characterized as "inaccurate" a report that future "Star Wars" movies falling outside of the regular trilogy storyline (Episodes I to IX) have been put on hold in the wake of the box office under-performance of "Solo: A Star Wars Story."

    Instead, Lucasfilm told ABC News there are still "multiple" Star Wars films currently in development that have not been officially announced. Those projects are moving forward separate from an already-announced "Star Wars" trilogy being overseen by "The Last Jedi" director Rian Johnson and another series of movies from "Game of Thrones" producers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss."

    The report I saw was exclusively related to the Anthology/Star Wars Stories.

    I think it is at least plausible and definitely possible the Collier report is reasonably accurate.

    I think they should continue those types of movies because they resonate strongly with a substantial portion of the Fandom but must do so carefully and probably focus more on events and story than rolling out character origin stories alone because I think there is a reasonable concern that general audiences may have limited or sporadic interest.

    Obi-Wan, has a lot of interest built in with some fans but I fear that even in Fandom it may be only an inch deep even if it is ten miles wide because I'm not even sure the interest is for an Obi-Wan Kenobi tale but rather in Ewan McGregor reprising the familiar character in a fairly rudder less fashion as far as what the movie can or should actually be about.

    There also has to be some flexibility with what sort of stories are going to be accepted without large amounts of blowback because I don't see why they are going to greenlight a picture about a middle aged man hiding in the desert in a small hut watching a boy from afar, meditating, maybe communing with a disembodied voice, and wrestling with inner demons in a space opera. That is a an ancillary material book for a niche audience probably even among Star Wars fans.

    I also think there is next to no reason to think this is something general audiences are chomping at the bit for and that means fans would have to stand strong in support for it to work, no protests or "maybes" or "I'll catch it on Netflix" crap.

    You want these types of flicks then support them while not throwing tantrums that just turn everyone off and generate awful amounts of entropy in the property which casual types don't want to be mired in.

    I don't even love Solo like some claim they do but I've been 3 times and probably will go again.

    If you hate something then make it a one and done but we are all in it together, for this to really swing we have to support each other's flavors of Star Wars as much as we can and show enough interest to justify the various types of movies to shareholders and management.
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    Plausibly the denial is denying something I'm not sure was ever actually asserted - that all non Saga films have been cancelled or otherwise put on hold.

    "
    Lucasfilm sources on Thursday characterized as "inaccurate" a report that future "Star Wars" movies falling outside of the regular trilogy storyline (Episodes I to IX) have been put on hold in the wake of the box office under-performance of "Solo: A Star Wars Story."

    Instead, Lucasfilm told ABC News there are still "multiple" Star Wars films currently in development that have not been officially announced. Those projects are moving forward separate from an already-announced "Star Wars" trilogy being overseen by "The Last Jedi" director Rian Johnson and another series of movies from "Game of Thrones" producers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss."

    The report I saw was exclusively related to the Anthology/Star Wars Stories.

    I think it is at least plausible and definitely possible the Collier report is reasonably accurate.

    I think they should continue those types of movies because they resonate strongly with a substantial portion of the Fandom but must do so carefully and probably focus more on events and story than rolling out character origin stories alone because I think there is a reasonable concern that general audiences may have limited or sporadic interest.

    Obi-Wan, has a lot of interest built in with some fans but I fear that even in Fandom it may be only an inch deep even if it is ten miles wide because I'm not even sure the interest is for an Obi-Wan Kenobi tale but rather in Ewan McGregor reprising the familiar character in a fairly rudder less fashion as far as what the movie can or should actually be about.

    There also has to be some flexibility with what sort of stories are going to be accepted without large amounts of blowback because I don't see why they are going to greenlight a picture about a middle aged man hiding in the desert in a small hut watching a boy from afar, meditating, maybe communing with a disembodied voice, and wrestling with inner demons in a space opera. That is a an ancillary material book for a niche audience probably even among Star Wars fans.

    I also think there is next to no reason to think this is something general audiences are chomping at the bit for and that means fans would have to stand strong in support for it to work, no protests or "maybes" or "I'll catch it on Netflix" crap.

    You want these types of flicks then support them while not throwing tantrums that just turn everyone off and generate awful amounts of entropy in the property which casual types don't want to be mired in.

    I don't even love Solo like some claim they do but I've been 3 times and probably will go again.

    If you hate something then make it a one and done but we are all in it together, for this to really swing we have to support each other's flavors of Star Wars as much as we can and show enough interest to justify the various types of movies to shareholders and management.
     
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    I think more and more people are starting to realize this. It is the ultimate in holding on. I will go back to when Disney bought LFL. If they had a good story about Obi-Wan they would have signed up Ewan and the film would have been out by now. After a long period of rumors Solo was announced 3 years ago. 3 years from now is 2021. We would have known a year ago that Obi-Wan was coming out in 2020.
     
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    To be honest I'd be more interested in a young Obi-Wan story than one set during his exile in Tatooine. He was just there taking care of Luke...
     
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    It DOES sound like good news to me...

    I’m glad we got Solo out of it though; that was great stuff, imo.

    My own, personal SW hopes lie in a really excellent TV series, with a delicious storyline.

    The current trilogy (ST) is the least appealing project- (subjectively speaking, of course), -the characters just haven’t hooked me yet. (I *love* the concept of Rey, but as of yet, the execution/representation has been ... meh. She may draw me in yet, I suppose.)

    I also have my fingers crossed that Filoni will weave a great story with ‘Resistance’, ... -hey- maybe he’ll see more funding for that project now that *all this* has happened.
     
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