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Update! Japanese Star Wars: The Last Jedi Promotional Leaflet Teases 'Shocking Truth'.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by SWNN Probe, May 16, 2017.

  1. SWNN Probe

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    A Japanese leaflet promoting Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi was released a few days ago, and the promotion featured description suggesting that the movie is going to have a major surprise in it that will change everything - possibly giving Darth Vader's unexpected parental reveal a run for its money. The description also hints at where some of the characters are headed.







    Since we have so little to work with right now, it's worth looking at any believable lead for story details - and a promotional ad seems like as good a place to start as any. The leaflet appears as follows (special thanks to The Cantina user Niamor for the scan/translation):



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    The text roughly translates to the following:



    I find it interesting that the word used to describe Kylo Ren's portion of The Last Jedi is 'ambition' - from what we've seen of him so far, Kylo Ren seems like a character driven more by the misguided belief that what he's doing is right than someone who seeks to gain more power beyond mastering his abilities in the Force. Also interesting is that the description suggests that Poe, Leia, Finn, and BB-8 as being part of the same mission when the story details that have leaked out about suggest that Poe and BB-8 stick around with Leia and that Finn goes on a mission with Rose. Perhaps these two stories are more connected than they initially appear.



    But what's really interesting is that the poster teases that we're going to get a mind-blowing twist thrown in somewhere. That's not entirely unexpected if the movie takes a few thematic cues from The Empire Strikes Back, but it's hard to imagine Rian Johnson's movie topping 'I am your father' - and while such a feat isn't impossible, it seems like that's a really tough act to follow. There's a lot of stuff that could make for big reveals in the movie - Rey's parentage, Snoke's identity, the reason that Luke went missing in the first place - but it almost seems like some (or all) of that is low-hanging fruit compared to what this is describing. Perhaps the big twist is going to be something that won't be hinted at all in the ad campaign and we'll only learn about it in the movie itself, much like the reveal that Kylo Ren was Han and Leia's son in The Force Awakens.



    Even with this information, don't get too excited just yet. There's a chance that this leaflet might not be 100% reflective of the content in the movie itself, as we're far enough from the movie's release that Lucasfilm would still likely continue to hold off on more plot details, so the person behind this ad's copy might be writing a bit speculatively. After all, Lucasfilm hasn't really said too much on the front of what many of these characters are up to in this movie, and it seems like this would be a really weird place to actually reveal all of that. In addition, Lucasfilm's logo isn't plastered anywhere on this poster - although there is a usual trademark near the bottom - and that's something I find a little odd. Also odd is that the logo in the center is for The Force Awakens, but based on positioning of the font, I think the ad is emphasizing that this is the sequel to The Force Awakens as opposed to officially promoting it. (I only have a basic knowledge of the Japanese language, so I can't tell what it actually says.)



    Still, this at least gives us a bit of a potential lead as to where this story might be headed in future installments. We only have seven more months to wait until The Last Jedi comes out, so until then, we'll keep our eyes peeled for more easy-to-miss stories like this one.


    <h3 style='color: #ff0000;']UPDATE</h3>


    D. Hackerson has managed to track down a complete copy of the official Japanese 'The Last Jedi' teaser pamphlet. Thanks 'D'! Check it out below!












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    Sry was Kylo has Han and Leia's son a shocking reveal?

    Campea over at Collider also teased some shocking event which suggest to me something happens that is shocking. Not a reveal.

    Of course, shocking is relative to how much spoiler knowledge or background information you have.

    If you have read enough material you are going to be hard pressed to be shocked about any reveal. Be it Snoke or Parentage.
     
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    I don't think the author meant to say that Kylo's lineage was anything shocking because it was not. Moreover, in the film itself that piece of information wasn't presented as anything earth-shattering. What author meant is that in the marketing campaign there was no information on Kylo's backstory and in case of The Last Jedi this might be the only time we hear of this "shocking truth."
     
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    True enough but Kylo was cosplaying as Darth Vader and I think we learned he was a Darth Vader Fanboy before the movie came out.
    So both in the actual movie and the marketing I dont think it was shocking to learn he was a Solo.

    Point is shocking reveal could be Snoke or Parentage but I find that unlikely.
    Could be an event (so flashback or current) although both probably contain an info dump.
     
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    ショッキングスローニュースデー!
     
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    I'm not sure Campea made the claim of knowing something shocking. The question came up about knowing spoilers in advance of movies and he said he knows a TLJ scoop. Now, maybe the scoop is shocking but it may not be but who knows. When I heard that Han was going to die I wasn't shocked. When I heard that Luke wasn't in the film until the end, that was shocking but in a way that made me concerned about how they were going to use the character of Luke.
     
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    Agreed. I'm curious to know how or what was used to translate this as many words in other languages translated only mean something similar what we use in English. Also, I think the whole "it's time for the Jedi to end" is the shock they are referring to. The poster is cool looking but I think if you are getting hyped up about something on it you are sort of just reading into it too hard I think.
     
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    Yeah I wouldnt read too much into this article technically.
     
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    I hope hope hope and hope beyond hope that this big reveal doesn't have anything to do with the Jedi order having been evil or wrong!
     
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    I suppose we should also consider the cultural connotations. A Japanese definition of what is shocking may not seem so to someone in a Eurocentric cultural milieu.

    I'm leaning toward Rey being a test tube baby. We know RJ has good things top say about the PT and a reference to the Kaminoans would fit the bill. Rey isn't anyone's child anymore than Captain Rex was Jango Fett's son:eek::rolleyes:

    On a slightly more serious note, it would actually play into the nature versus nurture debate that grew out of Anakin's fall and Luke's temptations, right on through Kylo following grandpa down a dark path. Are you born bad, or do you become so out of choice?

    If Rey was a clone of a Darkside user, it could explain why Luke dropped her off on Jakku. He thought she shouldn't be trained in the same way Yoda didn't think Anakin should be trained, but couldn't make himself kill a child either. It actually looks a lot like the central tension in Looper.

    Man, I need some real news...
     
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    The term"shocking" can mean anything not necessarily some twist like M. NIght Shyamalan.
     
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    Just to say I think it was either the Japanese or Chinese poster that revealed Rey having the force. No other official material revealed that. The far east tend to be more up front with details than the American market.
     
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    212 days...
     
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    I am thinking all of you are wrong, and the big reveal is nothing more then the fate of Han Solo and how he miraculously survived the fall. Much like the assumed death of Darth Maul. Maybe someone was far below and he landed on their veichle on the way down and was whisked away to safety. Or he latched onto something with a lasso on the way down. I mean how many times did Harrison Ford survive as Indiana Jones. It’s in his blood no matter what character he is or in what universe. I just can’t seem to suspend disbelief long enough to get through these movies anymore. We need writers who are intelligent and creative who think outside the box instead of coming up with ludicrous storylines or repeating obvious formulas ad nauseum. I wish the Cohn brothers or Guillermo del Torro or the writers from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul were writing the script instead of the untalented hacks Disney is employing. The writers they have may be better then Lucas when he wrote the prequels, but come on, that’s not really saying much. I could write better material using a random installment of Mad Libs, delirious with sleep deprivation, during a bout of insomnia, then whatever they come up with.
     
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    The only thing that could be truly shocking is something that changes the context of the OT. I hope they don't go that route as the PT did that and it didn't work well.
     
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    There is some logic to this. "The Force Awakens", while not a copy of "A New Hope", certainly followed the story beats from that film and the result was very popular. It stands to reason that for the follow-up, they may want to template "Empire Strikes Back" for it's story beats. Empire had the massive, totally unexpected and very controversial reveal that Darth Vader was actually Luke's father. The discussions and debates that raged around this reveal have become pop culture legend.

    So it stands to reason that they would try and work in a similar reveal to the new trilogy. If such a reveal exists, in order to match "Empire" it would need to also be massive, totally unexpected, and very controversial. Most of the theories for such a reveal have met the criteria of being massive, some have met the totally unexpected criteria but I haven't seen any that meet the controversial criteria.

    The Vader reveal had many fans furious and upset they hated it so much. The felt it was a betrayal of the Anakin/Vader's character, and Obiwan who was now a liar based on what he had told Luke in the first film. What type of reveal could match that? Something that would have fans excited, engaged, and in some cases pissed off!
     
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    I love what Pablo wrote on his twitter about it being a cook book lol
     
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    I've said this from the beginning that rey is from a virgin birth; and to add to this she was created probably by snoke! to which has led luke to have dropped rey off on jaku. Rey is a reincarnation of Anakin skywalker!: she is the chosen one as Anakin once was aka darth vader!. Luke probably realized all of this and fled to his retreat; in order to meditate on this trifle. He most probably summoned accidently a darkness (post temple melt down) which would lead to future events. So the big twist in my option wil come when luke will say to rey (you are my father!) BOOM! Take care fans
     
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    Haha! You're probably safe. Besides there's already enough in canon for people to read a “Jedi were wrong” narrative in the saga (TCW aside). :eek:

    The Empire/First Order: Imposing order through control and the use of force.
    The Republic/Jedi Order: Imposing balance (code for "order") through control and the use of Force.
     
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    ...what??
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    wouldnt that be counterintuitive since there is an imperial research facility there
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