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UPDATE! Star Wars: Episode IX Cast Officially Announced Including Carrie Fisher Back as Leia Using Previously Unused Footage - Filming Starts August 1

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by SWNN Probe, Jul 27, 2018.

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    Finally some IX news.

    Now only 257 days till the first trailer

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    Star Wars Episode IX - Return of the Princess!!!
     
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    Ashoka and Ezra. Maybe Sabine instead of Ashoka.
     
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    I thought Leia sent Korr Sella to run that mission, and those were the scenes that were cut. Leia stayed on D'Qar and had a few conversations with 3PO which never made the final cut. Sella was on Hosnian Prime, standing next to the Supreme Chancellor, when the system was destroyed.

    I guess they could have also filmed an alternate version with Leia herself being on Hosnian Prime though....
     
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    Korr Sella was sent to Hosnian Prime.

    What people have to bear in mind is that the deleted scenes that are being discussed here are ones we haven't seen. I think it has to do with the rousing speech she gave that they talked about, but we never got to see in the movie, and possibly a few other things.
     
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    There ha a rousing speach by Leia shot for TFA AND they didn't include it in the final cut? Blasphemy!
     
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    So I wonder what the decision was to let go of Colin Trevorrow? Yes, will never know, but I assumed it was over on what to do with Leia. Since she's "back" I'm wondering if he wanted a recast or CGI?
     
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    I'm sure they could've come to an agreement regarding Leia. CT was let go a couple of month after The Book of Henry came out and I think that movie played a much bigger role in the decision.
     
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    Editing is everything. You can easily use deleted footage and re-use it for completely different purposes. You just have to look at all these AU fan videos.

    So far the score for the ST wasn't that great, except for Rey's theme, Jedi Steps and The Spark. But I have a good Feeling for his final score to the saga. He will give everything what he gots.

    That would be cool, but it's unlikely. The TLJ marketing was the best for Disney so far. So I think we get a title in February 2019, teaser in April, BTS Footage in July and the trailer arrives in October.
     
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    I still get the hunch they are going to try to appease the backlash fans, as announcing Luke and Leia returning and not being coy about it is the first step. In the past, they would have been mysterious regarding the return of Luke or Leia for Episode 9, but they know there is a segment of the fans that want Luke back (Force Ghost or possibly not being dead). And bringing back footage to Leia is another shot at the Pro-TLJ crowd whose one argument always was, "You can say what you want about TLJ, but you can't deny it was Princess Leia's last movie." Not anymore. ;)
     
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    Yeah this was in another thread, I'm thinking it's got to be something small. Flashback or force vision could work, but I'm thinking it's an appearance as a force ghost at the end. Maybe from an unused take or scene of her in the dress in VII, you know the one where she said "May the force be with you" to Rey when she was sending her to Luke? I'd guess no dialogue, but simply standing and smiling at Ben or Rey or both. Probably along with Luke, possibly even Han.

    That's the only thing I can think of that would be something that was really necessary to wrapping up the movie in the way anyone would think was needed. I can't imagine thinking, we really need a flashback or force vision of Leia so much that I'm going to use alternate footage from VII to include into the movie. It seems unnecessary to the degree of repurposing footage.

    I straight up cannot buy for a second that they're actually going to begin the film with Leia alive, just to have her be in some scant repurposed scenes. It would be a continuity nightmare, and then you're going to have to have her die offscreen during the movie itself? Nah. Best done in the opening crawl. If it's got to be offscreen, best to do it between films and not in the film itself.
     
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    Collider guys had some theories that she will be talking to Poe, Finn and Rey through a Hologram the whole movie guiding them (sort of like Palpatine in Episode 1). That way they can frame the shot of Carrie from Episode 7 that doesn't look totally out of place in a Hologram. And they also speculated they won't kill her in this movie as it is just too out of place at this point as she will survive the Skywalker Saga. I firmly believe Luke is not dead and they will impose some picture of Luke/Leia in the last shot looking out at Rey (sort of like the last shot of ROTJ where Luke is looking at the Force Ghosts). It will be a marrying of generations for the SW universe and the old and young fans. Just my take, as I could be 100% wrong.
     
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    I get that, but they would still have to be extremely lucky to have scenes that fit IX like a glove - like her dialogues. And if they wrote some significant parts of the movie around the portions of Carrie footage they had, it makes me feel like perhaps they could come up with something better without that restrain. But that's just speculation until we see the results... Maybe it turned out well, we'll see.

    To be honest, I don't like this idea... I'm guessing we're going to see some huge events in IX, so the idea that Leia is off somewhere else and is just communicating via hologram feels... wrong. It's basically going to be the conclusion of her son's story and it would seem weird to me if she wouldn't be in the centre of everything if she's alive.

    Would be cool, though, if IX ended with Kylo and Leia meeting - no dialogue, just an emotional "prodigal son returns" sequence. I'm also curious if Leia Force ghost is an idea they've been considering. Would require some explaining, but it's something they could potentially get away with if they don't have much footage.
     
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    I get what you're saying, but I think the mother/son arc they probably wanted to resolve in Episode 9 is out the window after Carrie Fisher's death. I remember this happened on an HBO TV (I won't name for Spoilers reasons), but the show was about a mother/son dynamic in the first 2 seasons, and then the actress died in real life before Season 3 and the whole arc of the show had to be changed for the remainder of the series. I honestly don't think Leia will be in Episode 9 that much (she is only really in TFA for the parts of the 2nd half of the movie) as I think they probably have enough footage where they can show in the movie to appease the fans.
     
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    I hope JJ used the worst bits of her in TFA, cause she was one of the weakest parts of that movie.

    (imo)

    edit: Cant they also use footage of TLJ ? Or is JJ to stubborn to use Johnsons Material ?

    :p
     
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    My best guess for Leia is that she'll be an integral (if not central) in the first third of the movie, but then be killed off. If there is a rousing speech unused footage, that could be her last bit on screen before her demise. That would be pretty emotional and a good way to get the Rebellion on track for the rest of the movie. Without knowing what they actually have to work with, it's hard to guess though.
     
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    So, about Leia’s role in Ep.IX.

    We know Carrie Fisher shot a series of scenes with Leia trying to gain support for the Resistance against the FO. We specifically know Leia had scenes with Korr Sella about this, and there might be quite a bit more of this stuff cut from TFA. (I sort of remember JJ or someone discussing how the entire first part of Leia’s arc in TFA was cut for pacing and length… I can’t quite recall the details, but something to this effect). Assuming there were no other type of Leia scenes/story beats cut from TFA, we can infer that Leia is going to appear in IX as an ambassador for the Resistance somehow. She will (probably) not join the other characters in fighting and whatnot, but will be off elsewhere garnering support for the fight against the First Order. This will probably happen in Act 2 (meaning we’ll get some slower, “talky” scenes there, but that’ll be fine, I think). Alternatively, IX could use flashbacks to revisit stuff that Leia was up to in TFA, setting up the Resistance network and her secret contact codes that they use to call for help with in TLJ, but that would be a stark departure from ordinary Star Wars structure. We could, possibly, see recordings/holograms of Leia working her political magic, but that too feels underwhelming. My bet is that the deleted politicking scenes will be doctored and cut together in such a way that the scenes that were once Leia warning the New Republic against the FO, is now Leia building support against the already revealed FO; the tweaking, story beat-wise, shouldn’t be too difficult here, although there might be some costume/hairdo stuff that will have to be fixed with CIG in post.

    All in all, I think Leia’s presence in IX – in addition to it being lovely to see Carrie again – will be as a politicker and alliance builder, and while these scenes are likely to slow down the story, clever cutting and some doctoring should allow her parts to be striking and very meaningful.

    We will probably not get scenes with Ben & Leia, nor Luke & Leia, unless some very clever post-production wizardry manages to splice cuts together and so on. And I don’t think we’ll see Leia’s death in IX (i.e. Kylo finishing what he started with another planet destruction or something); they could do this, which would fix some problems, like Leia’s probable absence from the inevitable pre-end-credits celebration scenes, but there are story-wise no reason to revisit Carrie’s death this way.

    (Oh man, am I stoked for Ep.IX! Can we please skip ahead a year, now? ;) ).

    PS: It's also possible there are some cut Leia scenes and performances form TLJ that could be repurposed, especailly regarding her relationship with Poe. It could be very cool to have Leia chat a bit more to Poe in Act 1, and then go off to lobby for the Resistance in Act 2 :D
     
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    True. I honestly think it could easily go the way that TLJ did, as you suggest, simply because this is just a reverse of the situation that they just had with The Last Jedi and Infinity War, what with IX coming out just over half a year after Avengers 4.

    But then again...”the end of the Skywalker Saga”. There is so much hype which can potentially be built, and you just know that they’re going to milk this being the end of it all as much as they can. I think that they could genuinely get away with even just putting out only one trailer for Avengers 4 with how Infinity War ended — everyone is already onboard, and there’s not all that much which needs to be explained about the direction that the film will go in. After the massive backlash to TLJ, and with us all being virtually clueless for once on the direction that the final film of a Star Wars trilogy will go in, I feel like there is a need to get people back onboard, and more story to set-up in the trailers (especially in the likely event of a time jump, and even more so if it’s a substantial one).

    I think that there are big reasons for and against both ways, and so I think it’s up in the air...which is why my selfish fanboy takes over in wanting to see something by the end of the year :p
     
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    Not very likely. Not because of some hidden animosities between Abrams and Johnson, but because all scenes that had Leia in them are in the final film.
     
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