1. Due to the increased amount of spam bots on the forum, we are strengthening our defenses. You may experience a CAPTCHA challenge from time to time.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Notification emails are working properly again. Please check your email spam folder and if you see any emails from the Cantina there, make sure to mark them as "Not Spam". This will help a lot to whitelist the emails and to stop them going to spam.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. IMPORTANT! To be able to create new threads and rate posts, you need to have at least 30 posts in The Cantina.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. Before posting a new thread, check the list with similar threads that will appear when you start typing the thread's title.
    Dismiss Notice

SPECULATION Vader's Castle on Mustafar

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by DarthLuketheWise, Dec 18, 2016.

  1. DarthLuketheWise

    DarthLuketheWise Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2015
    Posts:
    134
    Likes Received:
    302
    Trophy Points:
    1,772
    Credits:
    927
    Ratings:
    +428 / 11 / -2
    Oooh, a return to Bespin at some point would be fun!
     
    • Like Like x 3
  2. Leahcim Somar

    Leahcim Somar Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2015
    Posts:
    489
    Likes Received:
    1,368
    Trophy Points:
    6,017
    Credits:
    2,621
    Ratings:
    +1,607 / 27 / -7
    Cool. thanks for the info. I didnt know prior the R1 and didnt kno the book was out. I was thinking why would he do it. understandable tho. I just feel like at the end of Vader it didnt consume him fully.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. AstromechRecords

    AstromechRecords Jedi General

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2015
    Posts:
    16,794
    Likes Received:
    15,179
    Trophy Points:
    149,777
    Credits:
    20,098
    Ratings:
    +26,532 / 845 / -253
    It' also ebcause it's the last place he ever saw Padme alive and in general.
     
    • Wise Wise x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  4. Grand Master Galen Marek

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2015
    Posts:
    21,471
    Likes Received:
    101,257
    Trophy Points:
    176,317
    Credits:
    46,784
    Ratings:
    +115,025 / 340 / -131
    Yeah it would show TESB wasn't first his visit.
     
  5. Darth Nole

    Darth Nole Rebel General

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2014
    Posts:
    377
    Likes Received:
    534
    Trophy Points:
    4,107
    Credits:
    1,303
    Ratings:
    +819 / 80 / -54
    Droids can be programmed and re-programmed. I don't think he wants to be at the mercy of droids that have some embedded assassin program during one of his bacta baths. And if that old man was Snoke, then that makes Snoke about 115 years old in TFA. I don't see that either.
     
    • Pessimistic Pessimistic x 1
  6. cawatrooper

    cawatrooper Dungeon Master

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2016
    Posts:
    4,467
    Likes Received:
    20,256
    Trophy Points:
    146,667
    Credits:
    18,497
    Ratings:
    +24,714 / 65 / -37
    I get what you're saying. Well, rumors are that Finn may be going on a mission to Corellia in Episode 8. Hopefully that's true, it's about damn time we've seen that planet, and I think it would be exactly what we're looking for in regards to a more unique environment- combination of forested areas and heavily urban areas, along with a ton of starship production areas.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. SKB

    SKB Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2015
    Posts:
    2,491
    Likes Received:
    3,015
    Trophy Points:
    14,367
    Credits:
    6,861
    Ratings:
    +7,350 / 416 / -297
    [​IMG]
    Stay on topic... stay on topic.... this is a Vader's Castle thread
    ;)
     
    • Funny Funny x 5
    • Like Like x 2
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
  8. Klai Kenobi

    Klai Kenobi Rebel General

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2016
    Posts:
    447
    Likes Received:
    548
    Trophy Points:
    3,657
    Credits:
    1,684
    Ratings:
    +857 / 134 / -34
    Hmm.. I'm definitely glad they placed Vader's Castle on Mustafar. Something Abrams would never have the gonads to do. :) It's just getting a bit obnoxious they haven't really used nor referenced planets that were set in the EU or prequels.. I'm guessing they're saving Corellia for the Han Solo film, but maybe not.. Nar Shadaa, Onderon, Dantooine... No post Empire occupied Coruscant. Never going to see the Imperial Palace? Korriban?!? We have to read a book to figure out why they didn't mention the Geonosians building the death star in R1 even though that was the last we knew from the prequels? I'd much rather see a couple of these than the fan service they have pop up every 5 mintutes that doesn't even serve to the story.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  9. Skywalker77

    Skywalker77 Clone

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2016
    Posts:
    1
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    2
    Credits:
    449
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0
    I would have loved that also. I understand why they got the muscular guy (Spencer Wilding) to do the suit, but getting the glimpse of Christensen coming out of the bacta tank in R1 would have been flawless.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  10. AstromechRecords

    AstromechRecords Jedi General

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2015
    Posts:
    16,794
    Likes Received:
    15,179
    Trophy Points:
    149,777
    Credits:
    20,098
    Ratings:
    +26,532 / 845 / -253
    Well also Hayden is too short to be Vader and the architecture of his castle would have had to be specifically designed to be something like a forced perspective to make him taller
    .
     
  11. CTrent29

    CTrent29 Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2015
    Posts:
    1,503
    Likes Received:
    1,508
    Trophy Points:
    6,192
    Credits:
    2,521
    Ratings:
    +2,408 / 394 / -178
    Why Mustafar? Why would Anakin construct a castle on the very planet where he lost his duel with Obi-Wan, along with his limbs?
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
    • Pessimistic Pessimistic x 1
  12. cawatrooper

    cawatrooper Dungeon Master

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2016
    Posts:
    4,467
    Likes Received:
    20,256
    Trophy Points:
    146,667
    Credits:
    18,497
    Ratings:
    +24,714 / 65 / -37
    Well, since the thread is getting a bit long, I can repeat some of the sentiment. First of all, it's been confirmed in some promotional material, that Vader's residence there is of Palpatine's design. Likely it's to fuel his hatred- it's a hot, miserable, dark place that has horrible connotations in his mind. Of course it's going to make his hatred stronger, which for a Sith, is advantageous.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  13. RoyleRancor

    RoyleRancor Car'a'Carn

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2016
    Posts:
    5,793
    Likes Received:
    34,664
    Trophy Points:
    159,917
    Credits:
    25,708
    Ratings:
    +43,315 / 189 / -99
    I just listed off the places they used or were based on and you ignored it outside of Mustafar. There's been 2 movies since the PT. I honestly think Rogue One played with A LOT from the prequels.
    Geonisians are a big part of Catalyst. By this stage they aren't really involved IIRC.

    What fan service popped up every 5 minutes? I keep seeing this and aside from a few things, it really wasn't every 5 minutes and in a two hour movie I can only think of twice where it wasn't directly involved and fit perfectly in.
    1. Walrus Man. It didn't need to be there but it wasn't bad either. It was just there.
    2. C3PO and R2D2. They didn't need to talk, I will say that but it makes sense they are there.

    Everything else fit in to the time period. Of course it's going to have a ton of calls to ANH, it's literally an hour before ANH happens.
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 21, 2016, Original Post Date: Dec 21, 2016 ---
    It's where Darth Vader was born officially. It fuels his hate for the Jedi and Obi-Wan specifically.
     
    • Like Like x 5
    • Informative Informative x 1
  14. DrLoveFish

    DrLoveFish Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2016
    Posts:
    41
    Likes Received:
    70
    Trophy Points:
    752
    Credits:
    581
    Ratings:
    +121 / 0 / -1
    Also, the castle is built over the top of a Sith cave.
     
    • Like Like x 4
    • Informative Informative x 2
  15. Lord of the Rens

    Lord of the Rens HATES: Clumsy AND Stupid

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2015
    Posts:
    2,136
    Likes Received:
    26,523
    Trophy Points:
    151,117
    Credits:
    15,501
    Ratings:
    +29,442 / 126 / -47
    Not a dark side cave, a SITH cave. I love that fact.
     
    • Like Like x 6
  16. DarthLuketheWise

    DarthLuketheWise Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2015
    Posts:
    134
    Likes Received:
    302
    Trophy Points:
    1,772
    Credits:
    927
    Ratings:
    +428 / 11 / -2
    Me too. Part of me wonders, and I could be completely wrong - I'm sure someone's asked Pablo Hidalgo, but I wonder if they've incorporated parts of Korriban and Mustafar together or if they are one and the same? A Sith cave suggests to me perhaps there is an ancient burial ground.. artifacts of some sort.

    Whatever the case, do you think Vader has access to it or has it long been plundered and destroyed?
     
    • Like Like x 3
  17. CT-421

    CT-421 Rebel Trooper

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2015
    Posts:
    30
    Likes Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    127
    Credits:
    763
    Ratings:
    +43 / 0 / -0
    Korriban... or should I say Moraband is still its own planet. It appeared in the last arc of TCW.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
  18. Lt. Hija

    Lt. Hija Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2015
    Posts:
    835
    Likes Received:
    1,039
    Trophy Points:
    7,392
    Credits:
    2,632
    Ratings:
    +1,771 / 57 / -11
    Almost too much of a coincidence that it's on Mustafar, looks like Palpatine somehow schemed and managed to have the Separatists congregate there.

    Sorry to mention it, but when I saw the castle first, I couldn't help but giggle. But that's probably owed to the fact that it already made an appearance in the first draft for the ESB by Leigh Brackett (page # 66) - therefore I anticipated seeing Vader feeding his gargoyle pets out of a bowl he was holding. :D
     
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  19. Klai Kenobi

    Klai Kenobi Rebel General

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2016
    Posts:
    447
    Likes Received:
    548
    Trophy Points:
    3,657
    Credits:
    1,684
    Ratings:
    +857 / 134 / -34
    I gotcha. Good for you if you're content with these films. I find TFA had good characters and that's what saved the film from being a total present Hollywood reboot heavy abomination of sorts. R1 was a below average war film that luckily had the lush SW universe and Darth Vader to rely on. If it was just a sci fi movie that couldn't rely on what George Lucas already built then it prob wouldn't have gotten into theaters or talked about in high regard at all.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  20. RoyleRancor

    RoyleRancor Car'a'Carn

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2016
    Posts:
    5,793
    Likes Received:
    34,664
    Trophy Points:
    159,917
    Credits:
    25,708
    Ratings:
    +43,315 / 189 / -99
    I literally disagree with every single word you wrote after good characters.
     
    • Like x 1
    • Great Post x 1
    • Informative x 1
    • Funny x 1
    • Friendly x 1
Loading...

Share This Page