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Way to Save it All/Everyone

Discussion in 'General Sequel Trilogy Discussion' started by HothLeia, Jan 9, 2018.

  1. HothLeia

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    Since Disney seems to be on such a Game of Thrones kick (killing off characters in shocking ways), it lead me to a fun idea that saves the EU, Han, other characters, and allows for a variety of more SW storylines. Now, I usually don't like to use the time travel card in stories that are not time travel themed, but here is how I would have it play out.

    Rey's origins are murky, but it's clear she has some serious FORCE gift. I wondered what could happen if Rey uses the Force to observe something that happened back in time, something that happens shortly after the events of RTJ. If you watch Game of Thrones, you are probably with Bran Stark's ability to observe events that happened back in time. He discovers that he can actually affect these events when he calls to the past version of his father and he hears him.

    What would happen if Rey somehow uses the Force to influence a past event and change the outcome of the future (and therefore, the series)? In my scenario, some villain in the past is meddling with a failed device that Darth Vader was working on that combined both technology and the Force. This device failed and never came to completion, as Vader turned and Palpatine perished before its completion. It required someone strong in the Dark Side, and both candidates were lost before it could be finished. Kylo Ren figures out a way to go back and try to resurrect and use this lost technology, and Rey finds a way to go back and stop him. Rey stops the device at a cost, knowing her future will change and she could end up all alone on Jakku again without knowing her new friends and powers. However, Kylo intervenes and tries to stop her. Rey succeeds, but the device interacts with their powers, causing a time splinter in two which alternate universes are created after TRJ; The Light and The Dark. This would be similar to the Marvel alternate universes. The two paths that are created are the Extended Universe from before and the Sequel Trilogy, which must play out the same in order to get Rey to the point in which she went back and sparked the split which brings balance to time and space (and the fandom) at last.

    Why should Disney do this? This allows for the revived Extended Universe(which can now be revisited by Disney in new forms/new editions=more $$$, the sequel characters/story still exist in their universe, anything that happened before the time split are preserved without change(Prequels, Original Trilogy), and it opens the window for new adventures featuring dead/older heroes in the new series=again more $$$$.

    Anyhow, just having some creative fun! If you could alter time in the SW universe, what would you go back (a la Force) and change for the sake of the series? What is important to you and why/how would you change it?
     
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    Great idea! I've had a similar idea for years actually. It would also be a good way to go back and create a good ST lol. Let's face it, most fans would rather see the continuing stories of Luke, Han and Leia. The ST should've been about them, they should've still been the main characters and they could've passed the torch in the next trilogy. Think about it, the PT and OT were about the rise, fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker. The ST should've been all about Luke and Leia, with grand kids/other characters in small supporting roles. Eps 10-12 could've been the torch passing trilogy and the rise of the next generation.That's what Disney/LF should've done.

    I'm all for doing what you suggest though, good idea.
     
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    Got my vote. Bringing the EU back to life would benefit everyone. More Star Wars = More Better. ;)

    Now, let's see here. In the EU, there are a handful of precedents for time travel. For instance, while in pursuit of Kylo Ren, Rey might follow him to a temple on a planet called Benja-Rihn and they happen to find a green orb held by a statue of Mace Windu. A fight may ensue and they both come into contact with the orb and are sent back in time to when the orb was last used. After more fighting, the orb could be broken causing two different timelines to diverge. One half of the orb in one timeline, the other in an alternate one. When this happens, Kylo and Rey are sent back to their proper time, ecxept they're each in a different universe. Rey comes back to her proper place in the Canon timeline and Kylo ends up in the EU timeline, stuck on the forgotten world of Benja-Rihn until luck or circumstance allows him to escape.
     
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    Great idea! It's a good solution to the Rey/Kylo conflict and a great way to reintroduce the EU and create more stories in the new canon. Restoring the EU and further adventures of dead/erased characters is such a great way to bring it all together. It would please both worlds, plus it would be a pretty interesting conflict for Kylo to react with the Solo kids from the EU (especially Anakin) I could see him taking on a dark mentor role. It would also allow for the continued adventures of Rey/Finn etc. in the canon. Since Marvel pretty much does the same thing with their dozens of "universes" it would be a way to create more Star Wars for everyone, and more $$$ for the Mouse.
     
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    I give you points for originality but this isn't something that seems practical or necessary at this time. Casual fans have a hard enough time keeping up with was is going on in the galaxy far, far away that an alternate reality would probably wane people's interest.

    I understand that its sad to see the big 3 go but you have to "let the past die. Kill it if you have to." Embrace impermanence. Carrie has passed. Harrison only ever wanted to see Han Solo die since ROTJ and was never going to do 5-6 more Star Wars movies. And Luke... well he's a force ghost so he'll be with us forever. But these actors and their characters were getting old. Episodes X - XII are not going to be made for at least another 10-15 years from now and who is to say that any of them will still be around to take part in those movies? The timing was right to give them their send-offs. "Death is a natural part of life. Rejoice for those around you who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not. Miss them do not."

    Having said that, it isn't like we won't get new stories about Luke, Leia and Han in the near future. There is a 30+ year time span that they have to work with to write new stories and adventures. At some point they are going to tell the full Jedi Academy story in some form.

    The EU (now "Legends Universe") has been somewhat romanticized since the Order 66-like purge. There were some good Legends stories but also some that were not so good. And before the purge, the biggest gripe was all the contradictions that existed in it. Back then there were people who refused to acknowledge that Legends existed and would only acknowledge what happened in the films. Personally, I like that they are taking some of the best parts of Legends (e.g., Thrawn) and are incorporating them into the new canon. There is so much room for storytelling within this one timeline I just don't think there is a need for a alternate one right now. But you never know... 50-100 years from now after they've filled up the present timeline it may be time for a new one.
     
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    Why you gotta rain on our parade, huh? ;) People can dream can't they? Reawakening the EU is a noble thought. A lot of fans were completely alienated when the EU was guillotined. It would be a great thing to see it revived, allowing those stories to continue. I don't like the idea of Star Wars becoming exclusive of people who "can't let the past die". Where we come from is important too. If it wasn't for the EU, we would never have had more than three movies.

    If casual fans have questions, it's up to the rest of us to help them out. I like to give fans some credit, even casuals. They're smart people. You have to be smart if you're any kind of Star Wars fan. :)
     
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    Not trying to bring you guys down! Just offering my own perspective. And it’s not that I think audiences can’t handle an alternate reality in general (see JJ’s Star Trek reboot), it’s more so that the timing isn’t right. They just started unveiling the new canon and there are still so many questions left to be answered (e.g., who the f#%* is Snoke?) that I think they need to focus on addressing those first and foremost before introducing a different timeline.
     
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    I gotcha. :) Yeah, perhaps after the Sequel Trilogy and the first wave of standalones, maybe then bring the EU back as a separate thing; once the Canon universe gets a little more fleshed out. I can see the wisdom in that. :)

    I really like the idea of tying the two universes together in some small way. Seeing Kylo in the EU would be great fun. :)
     
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    Yeh a time event sounds cool thats what they did with another sci fi series ffrom times past a total reboot
     
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    Hey, you have a good idea! I love it. But If Rey has this ability, I think the SW will not be attractive anymore. Just my opinion.
     
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