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Were there any jedi who made their legion of clones all remove there inhibitor chips?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Bad Batch' started by Gechoman44, May 13, 2021.

  1. Gechoman44

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    So, in The Bad Batch, we get to see more clones who disobeyed order 66 in canon, which got me thinking. Were there any Jedi who actually forced their entire clone legion to remove their inhibitor chips as a precaution for if there was ever an attempt to activate them? I find it hard to believe that there wouldn’t be at least one.
     
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    I don’t know. That seems like a hassel. I mean, there are a lot of cloned in a whole legion. To make everyone take out their inhibitor chip would take a lot of work. Also, most jedi didn’t even know of the chip to begin with. But, say a jedi did. And they wanted to remove this chip of all their clones. I just don’t see it being possible. I few clones is one thing. A battalion is another if ya know what I mean. Also, seems kinda pointless if you ask me. Wouldn’t there be clone troops sent to hunt down any remaining jedi. Inquisitors and Vader would eventually hunt the jedi down if clones didn’t do that already. I hope im not too pessimistic here. Not my intention. :)
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    I don’t know. That seems like a hassel. I mean, there are a lot of cloned in a whole legion. To make everyone take out their inhibitor chip would take a lot of work. Also, most jedi didn’t even know of the chip to begin with. But, say a jedi did. And they wanted to remove this chip of all their clones. I just don’t see it being possible. I few clones is one thing. A battalion is another if ya know what I mean. Also, seems kinda pointless if you ask me. Wouldn’t there be clone troops sent to hunt down any remaining jedi. Inquisitors and Vader would eventually hunt the jedi down if clones didn’t do that already. I hope im not too pessimistic here. Not my intention. :)
     
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    It's going to be a bit of a long post with Clone Wars Spoilers. For those who did not watch Clone Wars but want to understand the processes behind the chips, I would advise to watch season 6 episodes 1 to 4. They are awesome Star Wars story telling to me.

    So, first all relevant information given on the chips in CW.

    In season 6 of the Clone Wars series, Clone Trooper Fives and AZI-3 perform a level five atomic brain scan on Tup, whose inhibitor chip had malfunction causing him to execute order 66 and kill a Jedi. Fives and AZI-3 find that the malfunctioning of the chip creates a tumour which is blocking neuro-impulses from communicating within the brain. According to Nala Se removing the chips results in death of the clone (as happened to Tup) or insanity of the clone (which she later “proved” to the Jedi with Fives going ‘rogue’ and ‘insane’).

    After the whole thing with Palpatine and Fives on Coruscant (episode 4), Fives traps Rex and Anakin in a ray shield. Fives says all clones have organic chips built into their genetic code to make them do whatever someone wants, even kill the jedi. Fives then says the Chancellor is in on it and that the Chancellor will try to kill Fives, because Palpatine orchestrated it. Anakin does not believe him. This is probably because of his relationship with Palpatine and Nala Se having said Fives would go insane (and to be fair: Fives claims do sound insane if you do not know who Palpatine really is). Finally, Fives is shot and dies.

    In a meeting of Palpatine, Mace, Yoda, Shaak Ti and Anakin, Palpatine says that his own personal doctors found evidence Nala Se missed. According to Palpatine’s doctor a parasite, native to Ringo Vinda and spread through a canteen of water they shared, caused the inhibitors to decay once the parasite had taken hold. Palpatine then says every clone will get an inoculation. After this Mace says that it is over then (which implies they would not pursue further investigation on the matter).

    In season 7 we see Nala Se’s final report on the matter. She says: “An independent investigation confirmed that the Clone Trooper CT-5555 experienced a malfunction with his inhibitor chip. Both the Senate committee and the Jedi Council have accepted these findings.”

    I think we see here a dynamic that we have in real life quite often too. Only experts can tell us what is happening, because they are the experts. For example, lawmakers/politicians are dependent on the expertise Silicon Valley companies (Google, Apple, Facebook) give to them, because they do not understand the processes through which these companies make money, or do not have a working understanding on algorithms and data collection. This puts these companies in a powerful position to decide which 'expertise' or information they will and will not share with lawmakers/politicians to the benefit of their companies. In this case the Jedi seemed dependant on the Kaminoans for information on the inhibitor chips. Because of this they eventually believed the Kaminoans and Palpatine’s doctors. So I don’t think any Jedi had reasons to remove the inhibitor chips of clones, as Fives had been mostly discredited.

    Sadly, they were still putting inhibitor chips into new clones at a young age until the end of the Clone Wars. So these chips must have been laying around in large quantities on Kamino. If the Jedi had wanted to, they could have still investigated those further, but yeah, they clearly did not.
     
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    I figured that at least a few would be cautious after what happened with Tup
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    Also, yes, it would be a hassle, but what about the Jedi with smaller clone legions, or that weren’t that busy.
     
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    Hmmm. Maybe you are right. After the incident with Tup, many were on high alert. But, after fives was killed, that was it. The situation with Tup was left unsolved. I doubt any Jedi would now. But potentially maybe one Jedi heard of the news and believed Fives. Maybe. Its only a matter of time before we get this question solved ya know
     
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    To be fair, hypothetically the chances of a Jedi hearing of and believing the Fives story are indeed not fully unplausible with the amount of Jedi in the galaxy. Perhaps a Jedi had a good relationship with Fives and wanted to further investigate Fives' story. Or perhaps a Jedi already had some kind of a vision of Order 66 (as Yoda did too) and then Fives' story made sense.

    As far as we know Fives had been in contact with Obi-Wan, Anakin, Ahsoka and Krell, which we know did not take the chips of clones out. Also we know he had contact with Tiplar, the Jedi who got executed, and her sister Tiplee, who has a canon death during the Clone Wars. Of course he was also in contact with Shaak Ti a lot, so maybe she distrusted the outcome of the investigation.

    Nevertheless, it could also have been a Jedi who did not meet Fives as far as the SW canon tells us.
    We know that one death Jedi was spotted on Kamino in the aftermath of Order 66. As Shaak Ti was the only Jedi we have seen in charge of the Cloning process, that death Jedi was a bit of a surprise to me.
    . So who knows. Can't wait for the next episode :D
     
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    No I don’t know how to spoiler tag things but no
     
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    If a Jedi knew about the inhibitor chips and had the ability to remove them, but didn’t warn the other Jedi, that would be a pretty lousy Jedi.

    I mean maybe you could say that the Jedi tried to warn others and got ignored, but it doesn’t seem like it was that hard for a Jedi to get an audience with the Jedi Council, and I believe they would have taken this seriously.
     
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    What if the Jedi didn’t tell the others because they wanted to keep it a secret. The Jedi knew that there was a Sith Lord in the senate, so maybe this Jedi didn’t warn the others so that they wouldn’t be mysteriously killed. I figured that if a Jedi did make their entire legion remove their inhibitor chips, they would have kept it a secret to avoid getting killed.
     
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