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What are the odds that Rian Johnson's trilogy gets cancelled?

Discussion in 'Rian Johnson's New Trilogy' started by darth sputnik, Dec 26, 2017.

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Will RJ's trilogy happen or not?

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    Boom, boom

    I think there will be more chance of that happening to yourself. I can't see many people going to see RJ new trilogy of films. So I guess when leaving the theatre there won't be many people holding the door open for you. Having said that you will probably trip over a tumble weed before getting to the door. .
     
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    Well, according to the standards of the 'metier', Rian Johnson made a movie that was critically lauded and a box office hit. The fact that it is divisive amongst fans doesn't really matter. So was ESB. Besides, Kennedy and Lucasfilm really love to work with him, he's an independent thinker and an original creative force. I'd love to see more!
     
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    That’ll do the job!
     
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    I wouldn't write SW off that fast though, just because people didn't get any answers on some very important questions doesn't mean they will not get them in time.

    It's like Luke said in the movie "It's not going to go the way you think".
    many people have been fooled by this movie and are put onto the wrong foot so to say.

    Rey's origins WILL have an answer in time.
    Snoke is NOT dead and his origins will be explained in due time as well.
    And we haven't seen the last of Luke either.
    Have faith, the stage has been set (in a very sneaky way I might ad) for the future movies.
     
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    Rain Johnson is great dirrector.Whoever watched his Looper must know he is very resorceful man.

    People are blaming him for sending Luke in the haeven in his age of 59,for to early killing of totaly unexplained Snoke, and making Rey random.
    In fact for obliterating Skywalkers.

    Yes those are sins that will cost Disney and LSL if they not fix it in ep IX, they are not aware of the scope fo their mistake jet since this is not new trilogy but continuation trilogy, continuation of Lucas acheivement that should be completed by ep IX.

    However It was not only R.J.'s decision but that of entire menagament of LSL including story and canon department who has long ago put the "story above connection" moto in their design of new movies.

    The Last Jedi may be not accepted because of travesty over connection with older films and Skywalkers,which indeed is true,they continued on Lucas work and should have at last finished this trilogy following Lucas rules. ... but .....entirely new trilogy, which would not be linked at all with Skywalkers is the thing that mr Johnson can do Wery well, I think he is perfect for this.
     
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    Why would they cancel it? They had already agreed to the script and his ideas, they had even seen the movie when they announced this new trilogy. He wasn't alone in making TLJ!

    As for the backlash, I think TLJ is doing well in the box office, and it is critically acclaimed. It can't do better than TFA for many reasons... So yes, they will not cancel anything because people in forums and facebook whine.

    If that was the case, they would have never brought back JJ to make IX...
     
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    Maybe, but let's put Star wars aside for the minute. It was just a truly awful piece of story writing and direction. It was a terrible film. It was a cheap tacky mess.

    But then again standards in Hollywood in terms of filmmaking has become very very poor over the years and audiences threshold for a good movie have lowered. Likewise with critics. Thankfully a lot of fans saw through this which is why there is such a backlash.

    This is not about SW, it is about churning out another junk Hollywood film under the name of SW. I think that is what hurts.

    I feel very sorry for future generations of filmgoers. Like Mark Hamill said, Hollywood is not interested in making great films they just want to make money.

    If this really the best they can do with SW ?
     
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    I disagree. In contrast with other "Holywood" movies, SW has by far superior quality elements and at least stands out as a fine piece of art, whether you like the plot or not. I was saying the same when TFA came out! Like it or not, IT IS A GOOD MOVIE! Most of the times, critics know when they see one! There are movies acclaimed by the critics that I consider b..s..t, but it is up to my personal taste. I can't say it is actually a bad movie!

    So far, Disney has been treating SW with the outmost care, UNLIKE its creator, that created two trash movies (TPM, AOTC) and two average ones that were saved by some iconic duels and their emotional endings (ROTJ, ROTS).

    And I also don't feel worried at all! You act like there were no trash movies in the 00s, 90s, 80s, 70s! Bad movies existed, exist and will always exist!
     
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    There will always be lovers, and there will always be haters.

    When the first trilogy of SW came out, no one knew what to expect, it became a huge success.
    But still, lots of people didn't liked or cared about SW back then, my mother is one of them unfortunately and some of my friends as well.:eek:
    No matter how often I tried to get her/them to like this franchise, she/they never warmed up to it.

    Now you have the social media, a concept that didn't exist when the first SW came out..I'm sure that if social media had existed back then, there would also have been a negative backlash.
    The only difference is the DIE HARD fans didn't exist back then, SW was a blank slate.

    Everyone can have their opinion, but you have also the DIE HARD fans whose adoration nowadays borders almost on insanity.
    People just have to accept that their opinion only matters to THEM alone, and not trying to make people who loved the movie seem like they got it all wrong.

    People who didn't liked the movie aren't wrong in their opinion.
    But people who liked the movie aren't wrong either.

    I liked the movie, but was also surprised by it. (not in a negative way)
    I thought it was a gutsy move.
     
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    I am one of the people why doesn't like TLJ for a number of reasons but feel Disney should not cancel his trilogy... RJ makes great films though I get the impression that he cannot handle characters built by others before him... a new trilogy means he has greater control on the characters and universe he creates...so I am actually looking forward to him having his own trilogy.
     
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    This. There are so many people trying to tell other people on the internet that they are wrong for liking or disliking something. I don't get it.
     
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    I'm not a fan of TLJ. But I've gotten into that in many threads elsewhere.

    Even me not liking TLJ, I wouldn't mind seeing RJ have his own trilogy. I think what this ST is suffering from is lack of vision and continuity from TFA to TLJ and even the ST to the rest of canon (we'll see what Ep 9 does). I think RJ can probably do well given the whole trilogy and working it into something great since it will all be his vision, and with canon reworked by the ST.

    The ST is going to exist regardless how I or others are not fans. At this point KK may as well embrace it and move forward with the fans who are on board. Otherwise it's kind of admitting they erred, and well, I don't see that happening.
     
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    Since I'm apparently the only one who really liked TLJ, I'd like to see RJ's trilogy. But I'm fairly certain they will ditch him and put the series in more capable hands such as Michael Bay.

    Since TFA sucked so hard (it didn't by any measure) and Rogue One was crap on top of crap (it was a brilliant film) and TLJ was a complete dumpster fire (not in any way was it a fire, dumpster or otherwise) Disney/LFL has no clue about how to make a movie. Not one. So yeah.....RJ needs to be dumped, ditched, shunned.

    SHUUUUUUNED.


    No really..... Can't wait to see Rian Johnson's trilogy because I'm pretty sure it will be amazing. I just hope the critics hate it so the 'fandom' can like it.

    EDIT: Corrected a misspelling. 'fandon' => 'fandom'.
     
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    "No no the youtube video must go out within 30 minutes of me seeing the movie for the first time. No time to gather my thoughts" #AngryJoe :p

    Seriously the many youtubers who were first upset about the movie and then changed their opinions after their second viewing to loving it suprises me. Don't these youtubers think before they review a movie? :p

    The backlash against the backlash is wonderful though.
    --- Double Post Merged, Dec 27, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 27, 2017 ---
    Believe me, most people love TLJ.
     
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    I had a similar conversation with a friend the other day. I feel like we are in a weird bubble where we have too much information to make truly informed or unbiased judgments.

    Whether you like TLJ or not, it is doing well. Casual movie audiences are enjoying it. In a pie chart of dollars spent, the people on forums like this do not account for largest part. While we are a very vocal and important part of the total fanbase, we are not the majority.

    Most of the people who are just "I love the movies" fans have no idea people are even upset about the movie.

    (My wife is a casual fan, she had not seen any of the movies until we started dating, she enjoys them and likes to theorize, but would never be on a fan page or forum. She had no idea people were so enraged about the movie, she really liked and thought it was a good continuation, even commenting "Didn't Obi Wan and Yoda go into exile, why are people so upset?" She is the casual base.)

    All that to say, I think RJ's trilogy is safe. He made a good looking movie that is making money. That's the industry.
     
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    The independence of this film from the central saga gives Rian more latitude to do things which, unless they are poorly done, would not, in and of themselves, attract widespread criticism.

    All he really needs is a truly compelling and original story that somehow still retains a prevailing sense this is, not merely in appearance along, a plausible Star Wars storyline.

    Such a story will not, though, exist impervious in its own privileged vacuum. It will occur sometime within the greater Star Wars chronology: either prior to the prequels, contemporaneous with the original trilogy and/or the sequel trilogy, or out beyond Episode IX.

    The story arguably should connect in some meaningful or complemental way within the larger Star Wars storyline, but its connections and allusions (visual, ideological/philosophical, or metaphorical), if any, will define how "connected" this storyline could be taken.

    An entirely disconnected storyline -- e.g. entirely removed from the Empire, Republic, Sith, Jedi -- is indeed plausible, but, if it feels too alien and strays too far in terms of look, content, and tone, this could be an alienating experience for some fans (while attracting others).

    I'm not sure, if going into this, there is any thinking of how this new trilogy might advance the interests of the overall Star Wars storyline, or if there is any consideration about that at all.

    Perhaps they (LucasFilm, Disney) feel they can go anywhere and do anything with this, and perhaps that will somehow prove to be correct.

    Personally, I would encourage them to be creative, experiment, engage in world building, and let us see new perspectives on the Force and conflicts beyond the Republic/Resistance vs. The Empire/First Order.

    They could even start or take this new trilogy outside the Star Wars galaxy: for example, drawing inspiration from the old Extended Universe concept of the Yuuzhan Vong, a setup which could then bring us back into the central saga for Episode X / XI / XII, where the New Jedi (or whatever name they go by) and the Post-New Republic have to contend with an unprecedented challenged originating from beyond the Star Wars galaxy.

    On the otherhand, if, in the end, if Rian's trilogy is simply a story which could just as well do without the Star Wars title, something which could be a space fantasy/sci-fi epic under any other name, then it will be interesting to see how far fans are willing to go to accept a story without any appreciable linkage back to any of the nine saga episodes (plus Rogue One).

    The one thing about all the movies, made, current, or announced, is their connectivity, which gives them a strong sense of familiarity and community. Something too strange, distanced, and disconnected could be a difficult storyline for lifelong fans to invest themselves in.

    I wish them luck, though. I want Star Wars to succeed. Its central storyline is not only entertaining but very important with its many lessons and relevance with things in our world. Its mythos is among our most modern, complete, and essential, something not truly witnessed at such a literary and universally engaging level since something like Tolkien's LOTR, as I see it, and that is a critical component of the soul of Star Wars, I think.

    What I do not wish for is to see the Star Wars brand so watered down or spread so thin that its quality diminishes significantly and its longevity as a franchise is jeopardized through a lack of care or a lack of awareness of what made Star Wars so special and important to begin with.

    Best of luck to the storytellers in this brave new venture!
     
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    I keep seeing this and I don't agree with the implications people are making behind their exile. They didn't give up like Luke does. Obi-Wan is watching over their last hope in Luke Skywalker and Yoda was there to train Luke and/or Leia. Obi-Wan defeated Darth Vader but Yoda had already tried and failed to eliminate Palpatine. The last hope was the children of Anakin. They never 'gave up'.
     
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