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What are the odds that Rian Johnson's trilogy gets cancelled?

Discussion in 'Rian Johnson's New Trilogy' started by darth sputnik, Dec 26, 2017.

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Will RJ's trilogy happen or not?

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  1. Shadowblade

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    Actually, I have to retract my previous statement. I though Rian Johnson would be perfect to create a new trilogy. But...I now sincerely think they will pull the plug on it. Not because of his abilities....but because he has become a symbol of the division, and have perhaps been active in the discussion. Quite a few fans feel he has insulted then...you are not getting those back.

    Just look at his twitter feed, trying to defend against the very ugly attacks against Tran. The Hate is seething....and be noticed that he deletes a few posts...the top one is missing but evident in the article. RJ is doing the right thing, as most will agree. But it just creates more hate and division.

    Disney will see that this is bad for business. They want a calm, eager fanbase. Being curious, eating up their related products. The state of affairs now is detrimental for the brand. I think we will see Kathleen Kennedy "pursuing other option" and RJ's trilogy put on hold.

    Article: https://movieweb.com/last-jedi-director-trolls-kelly-marie-tran-harassment/

    RJ twitter feed. Comments speak for itself...fanbase divided.
     
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    I'd be willing to debate this;

    While yes, some fans feel slighted, it's only because he made a movie that didn't align with their tastes, and that division is smaller than you think....they're just screaming at the top of their lungs, which makes it seem more than it really is.

    As far as those fans "coming back", you need to consider this; They haven't left...they're still here...and the majority of that minority will always be here, and won't leave no matter HOW slighted that they feel.

    Considering the ugly and vile things that I've seen written by these fans towards RJ, KK, and KMT....they're still fans...albiet bad ones, and those people have no place here.
     
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    I mean polls of the audiences that are controlled against fraud. Anyway... it's difficult to argue against someone who wants to believe. Industry experts don't believe TLJ had anything to do with Solo. Solo had a variety of problems and the biggest one is non-Star Wars fans didn't go see it because they didn't market it correctly.

    Thankfully (as I stated before) Disney has hard data on the real reasons Solo failed so they won't be swayed by mistaken opinions online.
    First of all... good riddance if they leave. Again, this idea that a sizable portion of the movie going audience cares about this stuff is a mistake. We're talking about a few thousand people online and no one else cares.
    Also, if Disney fired RJ over something as dumb as this good luck finding any talented people who would want to deal with this franchise. No smart organization would cater to a small toxic minority.
     
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    The only thing thing he bacame a face of is my "muted" list on Twitter. There are so many bad eggs on Twitter and Rian's account attracts them with the amazing power of their sheer rudeness and stupidity.
     
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    The blast he puts up with and still loves Star Wars the way he does is incredible.
     
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    Yes I regularly use Rian Johnson's well most LFL representatives (actors, directors, authors, etc.) as the source of people to block on twitter. They attract the nasty like an open garbage can.
     
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    I'm not arguing with you as your opinion isn't any less valid than mine, I was just curious which data you were referring to.

    I believe in what I am saying as that is my opinion, I'm not saying it is fact because when it comes down to it no one will ever really know the answer to why SOLO is struggling and I do agree there are a number of issues that have gone against this film.

    I just think that the division created by TLJ is the major issue that's hurt SOLO and I'm certain that Disney will have considered that a possible factor. That's why I think if Kathleen Kennedy was to step down at Lucasfilm before RJ shooting Part 1, then his Trilogy could well get canned.
     
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    Can't wait to come back on here when it gets cancelled to see what everyone who says the people who disliked TLJ is a small group of people has to say. Its obvious its not a small group of people at this point or there wouldn't be a discussion. TFA had a small group of people who disliked it that's why nobody really talks about it. TLJ has a LARGE group of the fan base upset. If you can't see that you're just ignorant.
     
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    ↑↑↑↑ Um...please don't.
     
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    I still think it's 50/50 and it had zero to do with TLJ. Creating a brand new story from scratch isn't a slam dunk. It's also why he was given the task.... RJ is an extremely gifted storyteller.
     
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    ? Please don't call ignorance ignorance? Not sure what's wrong with that. Saying that a small group of vocal people don't like TLJ is ignorance in my opinion because it is proven through many facets this is not true. So whats the problem. Ignorance isn't an insult. It's acting blind to the truth.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jun 7, 2018, Original Post Date: Jun 7, 2018 ---
    I guess you can't an opinion in this thread other than Rian Johnson is God or you get down votes.
     
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    Ignorance is one thing, but insulting people is another. See Rule #6.

    If through discussion and discourse the person you are talking with doesn't see your point, move on or find another way to explain your point. Sometimes people aren't ignorant, it's just a matter of perspective. If the person truly is ignorant, then don't argue with them. "They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" as the old adage goes.

    Also, if you think that this forum is run by people who think Johnson is God and conversation about is only permitted if he is praised, you are wrong. Insulting him though, is another issue entirely.
     
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    Tell me where I was insulting people because ignorance is not an insult. It's a trait where when someone likes something they tend to ignore facts. Insulting Rian Johnson? I'm confused I haven't used any insults any my arguments so if you could point them out it would be appreciated.
     
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    Hopefully they cancel everything and have a serious rethink and re-strategize. You divide the fanbase, you divide the profits - cause and effect. Going into the sequel trilogy changing characters/plots/30 years of history on a whim and each film the director wanting to make a mark has caused such a 'clusterflux' of opinions is too far for repair in current form. I'm hoping he is removed with all the Kathleen Kennedy cronies.

    The fan base needs to heal, people do need to stop with the hate though, being constructive is fab, after-all it's just a film - no need for the rage/keyboard warriors.

    Much love x
     
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    You seriously don't think saying:
    isn't insulting? Look, @Trevor asked you to stop, and I clarified. If you don't get that, look at things differently. Try to see it from another perspective. Respect others, even if you don't agree with them.
     
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    Saying someone is ignorant is like telling someone to open their eyes. So I'm still trying to get an answer to how that is insulting. I'm not being disrespectful to anyone, people are taking the word ignorance to mean stupid or some other term that it is not.
     
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    Than you're really an idiot for thinking so.

    I don't mean that, but I hope you were insulted for a moment. You are refusing to see someone else's point of view or understand their terms. It almost doesn't matter if you're using the "correct" way of a word if everyone is reacting badly when you use it.
    I'm telling you that people don't respond well when you call them ignorant, whether they are or not. It's rude, and it's insulting. It doesn't make them open their eyes because all they see is you being a jerk (whether you mean to be or not).

    If you want someone to open their eyes, be patient with them, understand where they are coming from, clarify your terms, and make sure you don't insult and act condescending towards them.

    Look at the ratings you've received on this page. You really think people aren't insulted by you calling them ignorant?
     
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    Yea because saying something bad about Rian Johnson in a Rian Johnson trilogy thread is sure to get positive reactions right? What a great way to prove your point. Getting insulted by someone calling you ignorant is like getting upset at someone callig you wrong.
     
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    Oh no. YOU will understand that this is a place of peace and mutual respect...there is no debate about it, and will not be. Have your opinion...I'm good with that, but outright name calling with those that may have an opinion different than yours won't be tolerated...at all. Agree to disagree, and move on.
     
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    Obviously you didnt read anything i just said. I didnt insult anyone. Ignorance is bliss
     
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