What are the odds that Rian Johnson's trilogy gets cancelled?

But Luke didn't give up, more so he thought that the best hope for the galaxy was for him to not be a part of it. He thought he did more harm than good, so he decided to remove himself from the equation.

It's splitting hairs at this point, but I think they were all still trying to do the right thing. As they saw it.

 

If it is cancelled they would wait until Han Solo is released in order to see the box office for that.

 

That seems somewhat semantic; like you're really trying to force an explanation for the dramatic shift in ideology for Luke.

Mind you I don't mind if Luke does in fact give up hope, I just feel there should have been given more story towards WHY and HOW he came there outside of a small flashback. Ultimately they should have found a better plotline for Finn to have Leia, Poe, and Finn involved in their own plotline to give the story more focus. Rose and more-so the Canto Bight plot was a needless plot that takes away from the story. There needed to be more time with Luke, Rey, and Kylo, both to explain Luke's shift in character and how Rey comes to want Ben to turn back towards the light after recently seeing him murder his own father and almost kill Finn.

 

If YOU want Star Wars to go in different directions i think you should give me some examples.

 

As long as Kathleen Kennedy is in charge of Lucasfilm:
"3720 to 1"
If she's ultimately fired over Solo:
"It's high.. it's really high."

 

I'm not sure what Han Solo has to do with this?

 

It partially depends on the box office but I can imagine it ultimately comes down to Rian, He will probably have less creative freedom with his trilogy than with VIII so depending on whether or not he is willing to compromise he will get to do this trilogy or not. It's not the first time that the lack of cooperation cost directors their job (SOLO) so this might be the case if Rian is not willing to play it safer than he did with the TLJ. KK was full of praise before TLJ released. I didn't hear her praise Rian after the release of TLJ compared to her praise for JJ after the releae of TFA. BO suggests that TLJ is looking to do well but worse than expected and this is ultimately what counts for huge companies like Disney. Meeting expectations (if possible surpassing them) is the most important thing. Everything else is considered a failure.

 

My thinking is that Kathleen made the final decisions for how to handle TLJ. It has been extremely divisive with the fans and caused a lot of outrage and a lot of people seemingly think that her decision to give Rian his own trilogy has been premature. For Disney to fire Kathleen over her decisions, there would have to be worse box office failures of future LFL projects, such as Han Solo for them to make any sort of a decision on having his new trilogy cancelled or not.

 

Box Office hit is pretty optimistic. TLJ didi better than ost films could ever hope for but it's SW so it isn't enoughf or a movie to do well they need to do excellent. TLJ fell short of predictions, being closer to R1 and TFA and a company like Disney will probably consider this a failure. We'll see if TLJ can brin in more money over the weekend but for the time being I would be careful to call it a "box office hit" considering the expectations Disney had.

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I interpreted JJ return as a sign for Disney wanting to go back to the success of TFA. JJ initially said he didn't want to do it so I can imagine they gave him quite a bit of money to come back and do IX. It seems quite illogical to mention the return of an old director as an argument for how confident Lucasfilm is in TLJ...

 

Agree to disagree. The Last Jedi is doing better than Rogue One and less than TFA. That was the expectation. The narrative that it's not doing well is coming from less than 10% of the ticket buying audience. It's already the 2nd highest grossing film of 2017. She's not getting fired. The film is more divisive than TFA for sure, but this idea that half the audience doesn't like it isn't reflective in the box office or comScore ratings.

 

That wasn't my point. It was that although there were fans whining that TFA was "not original", "ANH 2.0", "soft reboot", they were happy with it because it did well in the box office and it was praised by critics. That's why they brought JJ back. So their confidence about a director is not really decided by the fans' thoughts, but from other aspects, such as the box office, the critics and the collaboration between them... That's why the fired Trevorrow and the guys from Solo...

 

Yes they know that audience ratings are fleeting. Critics reception is for the ages.

 

I hope he gets to make 6 films, all of them weirder and weirder, just to annoy those still whinging about TLJ.

In fact, I hope he gets to remake the prequels. That would probably send many on here completely over the edge!

 

That would make these forums a ghost town...

I have zero idea what's going on in KK's head. I'd be so embarrassed to allow this film to happen, I think both her and RJ are a bit delusional so unless it's in the numbers, I think RJ will stay.

 

Dear guy with 8 posts since December 20th... This forum will be fine, but thanks for your concern.

 

While valid, your two points are separate.

I don't think it's a forced view on that at all, Luke practically says it in the movie. Everything the Jedi have done has caused more harm than good, himself included. That's why the Jedi needed to end. He was the last of the Jedi. He had no plans on sticking around in the land of the living. I think his reactions and demeanor are pretty reflective of someone who has reached that state. We don't need to know every detail of how he got there to understand he is there. People change, traumatic events can easily alter a person. And whether we agree or disagree that more should have been explained, Mark Hamill's portrayal was entirely accurate to the place Luke found himself in this movie.

I think as movie audiences we have come to expect too many plot points to be clearly (overly) explained. I understood all of the character motivations and personality changes.

I wouldn't mind seeing some in between books or heck, an animated series after Rebels that takes place after ROTJ and leads up to TFA, but I didn't need it in the movie to understand or enjoy it.

I am not a head over heels fan of the movie, I liked it, it had problems, but the items you mentioned weren't really issues for me.

 

You wanna see 6 SW films by RJ or just troll?

 

Sure, if they're original and as good as The Last Jedi then Lucasfilm has picked the right guy.

 

Actually when they fired Colin, they asked Rian if he wanted to take on Episode 9 but he turned it down because he wanted to focus on other things. Hence why they asked JJ to do episode 9 (he was the next best logical choice). With that context, it isn't illogical to bring back an old director. If anything, it showed that they still trusted Rian.

 

How does that work then ?

RT is now down to 51% and Allocine (French version) is down to 2.8 %

It seems the Han Solo movie is expected to bomb.

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/897314/Star-Wars-Han-Solo-movie-flop-The-Last-Jedi

I reckon Rian will be out of a job. Disney will not put up with this.