What are your favorite moments in TLJ?

Very true your ladyship.

 

BB8, Porgs, Vulptex and Fathier

 

My favorite scenes were Rey and Kylo Ren’s throne room duel, Luke and Leia’s reunion, Luke and Kylo Ren’s fight, and—yes, I’m gonna say it—Leia saving herself, which I think is a beautiful long overdue opportunity to showcase Leia’s strength in the Force.

The whole movie was great, though. I loved it all.

 

R2 showing Luke the Leia message again is such a fantastic moment. The Last Jedi is full of so many great moments that it's remarkably overlooked.

 

I liked when Luke appeared on the Crait battlefield. It was epic and exciting. I don't like everything that manifested afterwards, but it was a really neat scene. The Craig battle itself was a lot of fun and had some thrilling moments.

 

I liked Kylo being lectured by Snoke.
I essentially like all Snoke scenes.
To an extent I liked the force connect thing.
The first part of Kylo Ren vs Luke showdown (Before Luke Vanishes)
Kylo Ren and Rey versus praetorian guards of Snoke

 

That opening Snoke/Kylo scene is amazing. Kylo finally destroys the mask after being mocked by Snoke. Snoke thinks the manipulation is working in his favor until the shocking end.

 

I Agree, it was really good. You Could feel the tension between the two due to Kylo's failure.
Snoke was not happy at all w/Kylo, did not even congratulate him on killing his dad Han -- just ripped into him for failing to stop Rey. Shows you how truly scared Snoke was of Luke Skywalker re-emerging.



All that stuff is great between Kylo and Snoke. The helmet smashing was Ok, but I wished he kept it to Defy Snoke's mockery of it.

But what I really laugh at everytime, is this second when Hux smirks like a jackass As he walks by Kylo feeling good about the appraisal Snoke gave him.
Hux and his immaturity...

 

Ren can't defy Snoke until that final moment.
Shows you how deep Snoke's claws are in.

 

I love how TFA and TLJ come together now. In some cases old lines from TFA take on new life based on how Johnson decided to build off of them differently than how some fans had.

1) Rey refusing to sell BB8 has deeper meaning knowing what she went through.

2) Rey's ability with a staff are better explained by her practicing in a manner on her own that suggests she does that often on Ahch-To.

3) Kylo Ren's "I feel it too" line and Rey's first surprised look at him have greater meaning.

4) Rey's Jedi Mind trick among other aspects of Force awareness became aspects of her mind following her probe of Ben Solo. This is now canon thanks to the story group.

5) Rey turning the mind probe back on Ben Solo showcases her willingness to fight fire with fire which plays into some of her other angry moments in TLJ.

6) Ben Solo's desire for her despite having his mind probed by her forcefully and despite being cut by her after asking to train her helps setup where things go with them in TLJ.

7) Snoke's final training lesson is now very clearly that he wanted Kylo Ren to kill his biggest weakness in front of him. He even tells us and Kylo Ren: “Now complete your training...”

8) Luke's exile and disconnection from the Force help explain why he wasn’t aware what was going on. Not even the force ghosts could get through to him until he reconnected later.

9) Rey's desire to keep her Force powers secret from Finn and Han in TFA extend to her keeping her Force bridge with Ben Solo secret from Luke in TLJ.

10) The mind probe revealing an island that she'd seen in her dreams comes back when she tells Luke that she'd seen the island only in dreams and also helps setup why she is starting to trust her visions since they seem to come true. The other being her vision of the future of facing Kylo Ren in the trees which happened.

11) Maz Kanata's line about how the people she's waiting for aren't coming back now makes more sense in TLJ.

12) Maz Kanata's line about how the longing she seeks not being behind her but in front of her and how there is one who might still come back starts feeling like it has to be Luke but then later feels like it might be Ben Solo and in the end is more like Luke.

13) Rey being dressed in junker clothes as a young girl in her Force vision makes more sense thanks to what we learn in TLJ.

14) The Jedi texts calling out to Rey on the island continues the idea of the Saber calling out to her in TFA.

15) Ben Solo wanting to find the island and Luke as early as TFA leads him to do what he can and drive a wedge between Luke and his new student as he had past students before.

16) Han Solo's line about where Luke went and why was close to what happened.

17) Finn's desire to run and then stay for Rey continues and then grows to the Resistance movement and others.

18) Kylo Ren did what he said he wanted to do in TFA which was finish what Darth Vader started when Vader briefly could have been leader of an Empire when he killed the Emperor.

19) The tracking of Wexley's ship in TFA leads directly to the destruction of Dquar base in TLJ.

20) Hux and Kylo Ren act like brothers in in TFA while Papa Snoke is physically farther away and then Papa Snoke beats both of them up physically in TLJ when he's physically in their presence.

21) One of the themes of the TLJ is that without teaching from past failures history is doomed to repeat and that's basically exactly what's happened because the Skywalker family chose to hide their family secret until the reveal in the Bloodline novel.

22) Several earlier complaints about the prequel era Jedi and the Jedi's failure are brought together with Luke's lines but Yoda reminds that the failures were more about the individuals who made up the order and how the Order didn't learn from past failures and must.

23) Canto Bight's world building better connects to the world building established in the PT era and helps to connect the 3 trilogies more.

24) Sidious is mentioned by name, rather than Emperor.

25) Luke's dark side daze shot is visually reminscent of his dark side daze moment in ROTJ.
The look in his eyes and how he looks down at his hand help bring both of those moments together by design to imply that close calls without consequence and analysis may lead to failures in the future with concequence.

26) Luke's unconventional blind trust that without a real solution to his problems that escape and trust that the Force will find a way... first shown perhaps in the moment he reverted back out to the metal island in TESB and decided to jump without any way of knowing how it will play out... returns in him retreating to Ahch-To and hoping that in the absence of the Jedi something more worthy will come from the Force without really knowing how it will play out... In ROTJ he also mentions twice how he is concerned his presence is endangering others. His choice to retire from teaching and retire the order are from a similar mindset of thinking about how what he is bringing might be endangering the larger galaxy.


27) All of the big bads in ST
ultimately are killed by their apprentice while the Master is killing someone the apprentice cares about. Only one ends with the apprentice coming back to the Light and the other ends with the Apprentice becoming the Master and asking the person he cares about to join him at the top.

28) Rey's abandonment issues setup in TFA are exploited as weakness in TLJ. One of the most common traits of young adults who were abandoned is instant attachments with new people and we see Rey continue to struggle with the difference between good relationships and bad ones.

29) Rey's scavenging skills as established in TFA are shown in TLJ when she steals the ancient Jedi Texts and later when she won't leave the broken saber behind.

30) Rey's lack of Force guidance from mentors is what separated her from Luke and Anakin in her first film and leads her to go astray faster and listening to a potential Dark Side mentor sooner in TLJ.

31) Rey begins a life at the bottom of the food chain and is offered by film 2 the opportunity to be at the very top of it.

32) Rey's shock at the world she's never known, as first expressed by her sense of wonder in TFA at all the green in the world, continues with her smiling at the first rain she's ever seen coming down from the Falcon as she lets it fall onto her hand.

33) Rey's anger over Han Solo's death continues with her calling Kylo Ren a monster and mourning Han's loss into TLJ until Ben Solo reminds her that parents suck by reminding her how awful hers were.

34) Finn being supportive of Rey, as established in TFA, continues in TLJ when her first showcasing of Force power to the world at large and her friends is seen, and Finn is the first one to run out and hug her.

35) Poe's smugness, snark, love of BB8, and shoot first and ask questions later that first lead him to joking "Who talks first?" continues into TLJ but become a weakness for him. His natural charm as a leader as first seen in TFA is also something that leads the crew to trust him more than new leadership.

36) Finn's combat training as first seen in TFA continues with the killing of his former child slave Master in Phasma in TLJ.

37) Finn's willingness to die to stand up to evil first seen in TFA continues into TLJ.

38) The impact of the destruction of the Hosnian system, even though SK Base is also destroyed, still seems to have the galaxy apprehensive about what to do next and wondering just how powerful the FO are.

39) The notion that the Dark Side is the devil on your shoulder whispering in your ear to take the easier solution, as first explored in earlier sagas, is presented and explored and explained nicely in the ST.

40) The continuation of new Force powers, as first seen in TFA, continues into TLJ with a couple new additions to the canon.

41) The presentation and impact of the last great war and the parallels between WWI and WWII continue in TFA with the old base of Crait following the ship graveyard on Jakku.

42) The continuation of the 30 year advancement of humor, clothing, culture, and technology from the OT era to the ST continues with Death Star tech becoming miniaturized and more portable and the old ski speeders really showing what 30 years of aging around salt can do to poorly designed tech.

43) Ben Solo's belief that his father is a disappointment as first established in TFA makes more sense when you realize how status driven and power-driven he really is in TLJ. It also helps explain why he is more impressed with his mother.

44) The notion that not all people are best suited to turning back people who've fallen to the Dark Side, as first established in the PT and later the OT, continues with Luke and Ben. Former masters have a dynamic with their students that makes that process difficult. Only people that the Dark Side users come to love seem to be what might possibly bring them back.

 

45) Lor San Tekka’s line’s in TFA almost take on new life in ways similar to how Maz Kanata’s do after VIII. One could possibly interpret a sense of disappointment in Lor when he says “. I've travelled too far and seen too much to ignore the despair in the galaxy. Without the Jedi, there can be no balance in the Force.” It almost feels like more of a direct disagreement now in Luke’s initial philosophy than it did. Like a friend who spoke with him and couldn’t change his mind. Han’s “Yeah, I KNEW Luke” also comes off like that now.


46) R2 was shown at the temple in the TFA flashback and is later with Leia. Now we know that Luke must have returned him to Han and Leia, heard their theories for what went wrong, disagreed, and left because R2 is with Leia later and Han’s account is close to the original account and Luke’s account of what Leia believed is close to what Leia tells us in TFA.


47) Luminous beings are we; not this crude matter is seen via Luke’s astral projection moment. His true self before the darkness robbed him of years returns. Just like how when we see Anakin as a Force ghost now he’s at a point before he also became lost and blocked out the Light.


48) Central themes to Star Wars via Anakin’s arc are realizing it’s never too late to change course, saving what one loves, and atoning for regrets and Luke does the same at the end of VIII.


49) Visions of the future have often played key roles in developing Force users choices. Most often these visions seem to expose a key character trait weakness that the dark side or dark side users pounce on. For Anakin it’s control. For Luke it’s recklessness and impatience in that instant. For Rey it’s a desire to convince herself that something unlikely is possible. First with her parents and later Ben Solo’s return.

 

Yoda's lesson of failure is in my top 3 most powerful Star Wars moments.

I tear up every single time.

There is such a great combination of:

• The SAME Yoda we knew in the OT
• A lifelong lesson that rivals Empire's "Do or do not" speech
• The lesson of failure, specifically, speaks very deeply to me... and I believe all audiences

 

I know there are some that will disagree with me but I really loved the Praetorian fight! We hadn't really seen both light and dark fighting alongside each other until this film (unless you count Clone Wars/Rebels), and it was totally unexpected for me personally. I know there were some mistakes but it was really awesome!

 

THIS. Anyone who tells me Rian Johnson "doesn't get" Star Wars must not have watched that part. Luke/Yoda in TLJ is Star Wars at its best.

 

When it ended...

 

Agree. Also the battle its very beautiful visually. The scenario with the curtains in flame and the design of the praetorians.

 

The little quieter moments were extremely well done. The shot of Leia grieving while coming out of hyperspace, Luke walking onto the Falcon, the pan to Yoda, Chewie eating a Porg, Kylo's reaction after some of the force skypes, the Iron etc All really good.

Some of the shots were great as well, All the stuff onCrait, Luke standing on the edge of the rock during Rey's first lesson, the rippling pool when he reconnects to Leia. Pretty much all of it was visually stunning even if I don't like many of the character design choices. The actors and people behind the scenes in production really did brilliant jobs.

Still don't like the script, tone, pacing, editing or dialogue though

 

Snoke berating Kylo
The first lesson
The second lesson
The Yoda scene
Throne room scenes.
holdo maneuver
Finn vs Phasma
Battle of Crait
Luke facing down First Order with laser sword
Luke’s death

 

Ben: Did you come here to forgive me?

Luke: No.

 

The Rey and Luke confrontation in the rain is my favorite part of the movie.