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What do you like about the Prequels?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Rebo, Sep 19, 2014.

  1. CTrent29

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    For me it is a grand epic with romance, political maniulation, emotional heartbreak, treachery and action. And watching the Republic make its first steps into succumbing to Palpatine's power, along with the Jedi continuing with their mistakes, is fascinating to me.
     
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    The best tune in the "Aotc romance" is the one fromm the restaurant scene imo.

    Across is great at what it is, but what it is is kind of a very obvious "look how sad and romantic all this is - FEEL the sadness" - that idyllic flute tune though, you're not even quite sure what it's supposed to be about.

    The dies irae from the fireplace scene is also more numinous than that and doesn't beat you over the head with anything.



    Eh, just kind of a pet peeve of mine - people always keep singling out AtS whenever talking about this movie, or the lovestory or whatever, and all the other, "superior" bits of music related to that are always ignored.
     
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    Point taken, and good points they are too. AotC had some stunning music throughout, including the scenes that you mentioned. AtS has the old film quality i enjoy (as John Williams went for)
     
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    The music was probably by far the best part of the trilogy in general...story was fine but could have been better but I guess it's all open to interpretation..
     
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    Pretty much what the Republic used to be before everything went to hell. It was interesting watching how Palpatine went from being a Senator to chancellor to the Emperor. He was the most interesting cause he was the one pulling the strings behind the scenes. All of what he accomplished brought the downfall of the Jedi and the Republic...dark times...

    Obi-Wan...made me feel for him the most. Nuff said...otherwise i might get too attached lol.

    The Clones...especially the ones in RotS and TCW.

    The PT as a whole had some interesting ideas that could have worked if expanded on. I can say the same thing for TCW. It had a lot.
     
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    Yeah, great core ideas, but could have had better execution.
     
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    I guess one can say the same about all of the other SW movies.
     
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    Well the original trilogy was more even about things compared to the orequels even though that was sort of the point of the new ones as one large story of one person over a trilogy which is why i think the development felt slightly lacking in the prequel prequel trilogy
     
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    I don't agree. I feel that although both trilogies had their flaws in regard to execution, I feel that they were . . . overall . . . rather well done.
     
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    My favourite thing about the prequels is Palpatine/Darth Sidious.

    We see what a truly manipulative man he is. I think his skills as the ultimate puppet master are brilliant. For me, one of my favourite scenes from all the Star Wars moives is from ROTS when we see Yoda and Sidious fighting in the Senate Chamber. When we see them rising on that platform into the chamber its absolutely iconic. Yoda is fighting to protect everything he believes in and Sidious to get exactly what he wants.

    Phenomenal scene.
     

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    I agree with the above post that Sidious is one of the best parts of the PT. I remember the first time I watched it and saw him standing by Mace and Yoda as they discuss the possibility of Maul merely being the apprentice and the fact that the true Sith Lord is still out there somewhere. I lost it when they panned the camera to Palps.

    For me though, the greatest part of the PT to me is obvious: Hayden Christensen as Anakin Skywalker. He gets so much flack for his performance that, to me, is totally undeserved. His portrayal of Anakin was exactly what I wanted. The main complaint I hear against him is that his acting was wooden/robotic, but to me that is how Anakin would be. We all know he was a slave to his emotions and he had hell controlling his fear, anger, and hate. Hayden showed that very well throughout Ep 2 & 3, but what sealed him as Anakin forever in my mind was his stiffness at times. Anakin was told to be mindful of his emotions, not to let them lead him to the Dark Side, and to ignore his love for not only his mother and Palme, but for one of his only "true friends" (so he thought) in Palpatine. They made him a robot long before he became one quite literally. He really wanted to be the best Jedi he could be. He really wanted to do so much good for the galaxy, and to me, by having him extinguish all those emotions...they prevented him from fulfilling his destiny from within their order.
     
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    The light saber duels at the end of Episode 3 and the Duel of the fates song are my two most cherished things about the Prequels as well as Palpatine and Obiwan.
     
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    The Boonta Eve Classic, here if anyone wants to see it.


     
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    Initially, I loved the prequels as much as TOS. Keep in mind, while not the case now, my family was poor when I was a kid. So I did not see them in the theater(plus I was only 5 when A New Hope came out). In those days you had to wait years for them to come out on TV. So my perspective on those is quite different than most. Starting in the mid-80s, I would try to watch them every year on Christmas. As an adult, I did wear out my VHS copies.

    I saw TPM 3 or 4 times in the theater. I see a lot of the flaws with that movie now, but I loved it when it first came out. I'm neutral on Jar-Jar. I really llke AOTC, minus Anakin's whining. ROTS is now my 4th favorite. SW film. Until recently, it was close to being tied with 5 for my #1 fav, but Empire is a little better IMO.

    I mostly don't get the hate on the CGI, I think the writing is solid with room for improvement. The major flaw for these movies is Lucas inability to get strong performances from his actors. Some of the more accomplished actors gave solid performances, but ones that were well below their capabilities. Jake Lloyd's performance is now a major sticking point for me. That's the big difference between Spielberg and Lucas. Speilberg can get great performances from kids. Hayden Christiansen was mediocre in AOTC, but I thought he was solid in ROTS. ROTS is an all-time top-20 film for me still. Plus so many bashers seems to forget/overlook that Lucas tried HARD to get someone else to direct. No one would touch them. I'd rather have them with a few flaws, than not at all - but that's just me.

    The other big complaint I see on these forums is the supposed inconsistencies in the story from TOS and TPS. There are probably a lot of minor ones I miss, but I know of only 1 major inconsistency. Padme dies in childbirth, which negates Leia's claim of having memories of her birth mother in ROTJ. Personally, I thought Lucas did a fantastic job of connecting the prequel dots to the situation we see in the beginning of Episode 4.

    Everyone seems to laud TFA as being as good as TOS. Initially, I was in that camp. But when I watched the BRD that final act really soured on me. I can deal with the parallels in the 1st act. But that flat-out carbon-copy of the final act really weighs that one down for me now. Abrams excellent directing does make up for a lot of that. The acting in TFA was the best since TESB. But - what I call Episode 3.9 - Rogue One, is now my new runaway favorite. It is the best SW movie to date IMO.

    Back to TOS: Since most of us saw TOS as kids and TPS as parents. I subscribe to this theory I've seen others point out:
    Kids usually see things with open, accepting minds. Parents tend to have critical, judging minds. The reality IMO, is that TOS is not as great as most remember them to be and the prequels are not nearly as bad as they are now labeled. I love the prequel - I don't have kids.

    My SW movie rankings:
    1. Rogue One
    2. The Empire Strikes Back
    4. (Tie)The Force Aweakens
    Revenge of the Sith
    5. Return of the Jedi
    6. Attack of the Clones
    7. A New Hope
    8. (Tie)Clone Wars
    The Phantom Menace
     
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    TOS? ?
     
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    The Original Series(4-6). Am I getting my acronym's mixed up - is it TOT?
     
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    "OT".
     
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    Qui-Gon, Obi-wan, Palpatine. And I like the story of Anakin, just not HC's performance. I remember there was a rumor before AOTC that Leonardo DiCaprio was being considered for the part. At the time I was completely against it but in retrospect I wish it happened.

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    I was thinking something i do like about the prequels is the fact you get to spend time with the characters, the force awakens feels like it takes space over a day. Some of the prequels feel like they take place over weeks.
     
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    There would be no difference at all, except that Hayden looked way more like "Anikan" at least in my book.
    Dont belive me ? Watch at the BTS footage of Episode 2 &3, Hayden always wanted to try new things, but George and Rick never allowed that.

    At the end of the day Idc, I liked him in II and really loved him in III.

    Edit: I also thought Jake was good at playing a 9 year old kid. Its such a shame what happened to him.
    :(
     
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