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What do you love and hate about R1

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by rvtv, Feb 7, 2018.

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Do you like R1

  1. It's amazing

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  2. It's good

    8 vote(s)
    24.2%
  3. It's ok

    6 vote(s)
    18.2%
  4. It's bad

    1 vote(s)
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  1. rvtv

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    What do you guys really love and also really hate about R1?
     
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    one thing i love and one thing i don't ~ in the same scene/picture even! : D

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    Yeah borr gullet to me was unnecessary and slightly confusing. Another thing I didn't care for was that the characters seemed a bit bland, specifically Jyn, and Cassian.

    Things I like..... everything else. Death Star, Space scenes, land battles. Galen Erso was a cool character. The humor was good, not too much, no mama jokes or poop jokes. K2SO was a good comic relief.
     
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    Love: Clarifying that the Rebels didn’t just have the best luck of all time finding a catastrophic weakness in DS1 right before it showed up.

    Hate? Mmm, moderately dislike: The ending sequence doesn’t totally jive with the opening dialogue to ANH and there’s really no reason it couldn’t have.
     
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    I just watched it today at noon ( coz I was snowed in and Din't go ta work = called off)

    what I Love about it ?

    ALL, Each and Every Thing, Scene, Character, shot, ect ... ...

    what Din't I ?

    ... well, to me ?

    ... there wasn't nothin' I Didn't like.
    I had tears a bit ... That count ?

    WoW !
    I suppose as an OG fan ... I dunno ... I see 'em different than you folk.

    But We Love 'em All the same, Yes ?
     
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    I dunno if I love or hate that, but R1 really deconstructs all the clichés of hero stories, and turns out to be much darker than those (i. e. the girl is not really the chosen one, etc.) It somewhat reminds me of Animatrix.
     
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    "Final Flight of the Osiris"? That's a neat pull. They're both stories about the sacrifice the unsung heroes make so our main cast could later succeed.
     
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    If you are referring to the odd ANH circumstance that Leia allowed the Death Star to track them to Yavin IV, I - too - originally thought that Rogue One provided a sound explanation for her doing so.

    Turns out (IMHO) she actually made the right strategic choice in ANH. The Death Star could destroy planets and then vanish into hyperspace before the Alliance could arrive, engage and destroy it. Leia realized that luring the Death Star to Yavin IV would probably be the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to know where to engage the Death Star.

    Absolutely. Worse, in ANH Lucas showed us Vader deliberately looking at Leia's fallen defenders to ascertain against whom they were fighting. Had that been really the same ship that was escaping in RO, then he already knew, so there was no reason to examine the defenders.
     
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    I was really more referring to her line to Han while on the way to Yavin. “I only hope that when the data is analyzed, a weakness can be found.” The impression that always gave me was that the Rebels had no real reason to expect there’d actually be a weakness there to find. It was just preposterously good luck (or the will of the Force or whatever) that, not only was there a flaw, not only was it significant enough to destroy the whole station, but they were able to find it in such an insanely short amount of time.

    R1 clarified the circumstances. They were told where to look. But the source of the intel wasn’t totally reliable, so that’s why Leia was only ‘hopeful’. It was an update to the established canon that wound up enhancing ANH for me rather than my other example which needlessly detracts from it IMO.
     
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    I like its humour.
    And how it plays with perceptions. Who is in the right? Cassian or Jyn? Rebels or Empire? Is it a feministic or chauvinistic manifesto?

    What I disliked about it was, basically, how depressive it was. It is very depressive.
     
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    Oops, forgot to reply to this part.

    Yes, I pretty much agree with your conclusion. Or, at least, that it’s a decision that makes a lot of sense for Leia to make. Similar to what Obi-Wan tells Luke, “Stay and watch over the droids. They must be delivered safely or other star systems will suffer the same fate as Alderaan.”* I think that’s where Leia’s mind was at. She just witnessed her home, and everyone on it, destroyed. The longer they wait to respond, the more likely it is other worlds could suffer the same fate.

    This was the best possible opportunity to save as many lives as she could. If she leads them to Yavin, then they won’t be causing devastation anywhere else and they just might have a chance to eliminate their greatest threat. If they succeed, then they’ll have protected billions (trillions?). If they fail, then the Alliance will be over. But that was the risk either way with a weapon like that in play. Or maybe we’re just forcing those pieces to fit. I don’t know :)

    *That’s some damn fine deductive reasoning by OB there, BTW. He didn’t know what ‘vital information’ R2 had. He didn’t know it had anything to do with how the Empire destroyed Alderaan. Still, he managed to piece it together that getting R2 to the Rebellion meant no more popped planets. Impressive. Most impressive.
     
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    I loved that they had the balls to kill all the characters. One thing I was very afraid of was a happy ending but I was so pleased to see they fully embraced the more realistic nature of war.
     
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    -I love the tone of the movie as there is no gags, no cheese, just a serious SW movie with a few jokes to keep it light by the main droid.

    -I love that it fleshes out the Death Star after all these years meaning there was actually a reason why it was built that that way to eventually be destroyed.

    -I have learned to appreciate the ending with Vader/Leia as I felt it was fanservice at first. But now that whole ending gives me goosebumps.

    -I wish the characters were alittle better developed as none of them will be remembered as iconic.

    -I think the look of the film was way better then TFA. I have to see TLJ a few more times when it comes to Bluray to see how that compares.

    -R1 is just a solid SW movie. It’s not a classic like the Originals as it lacks those iconic characters and that magic, but it’s still entertaining.
     
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    I think simple flashbacks really could have helped with this. The Rogue One comic had Bodhi flashbacks during the mind-rape which showed some moments of his past. Something like that would have really been nice. I also would have included a flashback to Baze and Chirrut from before Baze became all cynical and lost his faith that way we would have a better understanding of who he is and also see that Chirrut has always been a sort of anchor for him which would show us how much more his death impacts Baze.
     
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    Loved -

    Galen Urso's holographic message to Jyn. Such a well written, superbly acted scene.
    Scarif.
    The space battle over Scarif Gate.
    The land battle on Scarif Beach. Loved the AT-ATs!
    Vader's scenes, especially his fight scene at the end.
    Ben Mendelson. Great actor, great character.
    The part of the Rebellion that didn't want to fight. Realistic.
    Diego Luna.
    "It's beautiful!" Really, it was.
    Cassian and Jyn's final scene.
    Krennic's ship flying past the rings of the planet.


    Didn't love -

    Saw Guerra's stoopid death. Basically a suicide when the team really could have used his help on Scarif.
    A dozen stormtroopers with blasters losing to a blind guy with a melee weapon. Nerfed to absurdity vs. Ewoks, even worse here.
    That lie-detecting octopus, and Saw's continued paranoia even after using it.
    Jyn and Cassian could see the street ambush coming but the stormtroopers couldn't. Are stormies good for anything anymore?
    Tarkin was too over the top. Officers don't commandeer Death Stars and keep their commissions, not with Palpatine in charge.
     
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    this scene finally won me over to Jyn.
    i went in not liking her at all, but finally she was a person i could relate to.
    and she's so staggered by seeing the image of her father ~ it was so heartbreaking!
     
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    I really liked Rogue One, but I think it would have been better if Saw survived until the battle of Scarif.
     
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    No kidding. His suicide was pointless. For a guy famous for using "extreme" tactics against the Empire he sure missed his chance. And for what? He turned down a ride with the team to Scarif so he could sit in his hideout while it filled with dust and fell down around him?
     
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    I'm certain Leia was between a rock and a hard place. Already in the earlier ANH draft Motti suggested to destroy every planet suspected to support the Alliance.
    Once the news of the destruction of Alderaan would have made the rounds, any support for the Alliance would have ceased, it would have slowly but certainly died.
    Same with the destruction of Yavin IV, but here - at least - they knew where to engage the battle station. They had to find a weakness, had they found nothing the Alliance would have died one way or the other.

    He was also the first one to state that Alderaan had been destroyed by the Empire, before they even sighted the Death Star. Possible he had heard rumors during his many trips to the Mos Eisley Cantina about the Empire working on the ultimate WMD.
     
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    You got a childhood flashback on a character (Jyn) that I believe was a first in SW.....yeah I know we got Anakin's entire backstory.

    What else could GE have done, in the time allotted?
     
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