What do you think Snoke's role was in this trilogy?

But that is what it's starting to look like. Heck, will Snoke even be brought up?

And I don't mean a throwaway line like "Supreme Leader Ren is worse then Snoke".

 

The rise of the First Order seems clear enough at this stage, as a result of Palpatine's contingency plan. What is definitely not clear is how did Snoke rose into being its supreme leader, and how that may or may not be linked with Palpatine, and what the eventual relation between these two characters was.

Snoke could be:

1. Another pawn or apprentice of Palpatine, like Maul, Dooku, Grievous, and Vader
2. Another powerful dark side user that was aware of Palpatine, and probably vice versa, that somehow the Jedi also did not sense
3. Darth Plagueis, in its original or some new form, clone, etc
4. Other?

Hux had the control of the army. So, whoever Hux feared or obeyed would have the final control over the First Order. We can see how quickly Hux sucumbed or accepted Kylo's ruling after Snoke, so that puts options 1. and 2. more or less at the same level of probability for me. Although I'd say that option 2. is perhaps a bit more likely.

So, the key question seems to be if Palpatine and Snoke had any kind of relationship:

a. Palpatine and Snoke didn't know each other
b. Palpatine and Snoke were allies
c. Palpatine was controlling Snoke
d. Other?

In any case, I think it would make sense for Snoke's role to be linked to Palpatine in some way, so that the overall arc of the story could be more inclusive, and satisfying, in my view. I guess we'll see in December.

 

So when Good old Sheev found the source of the dark side, the master puppeteer that he is, set up a Plan B in case his Plan A fails (and it did).
So he used the remains of the empire as a bait and sent it toward the dark side source, he found (snoke). Snoke getting aware of a fleet without strong leaders, and a galaxy that is week after years of war saw his chance to rule the whole galaxy next to him. What he didn't know is that Palpatine planned that all along, to take over control again with the help of his new puppet. His spirit survived bound to the ring he forged remains of DS2 from where he manipulated his nazgul unknowing servant.

 

If Snoke was left alive in TLJ, then the final movie would be really predictable because we would know that he gets killed in the final chapter.

Then his arc would be too similar to Emperor's from ROTJ and then a lot of people would say - 'rehash', 'not original story' etc.

I for one am thankful they killed Snoke because now I have no idea where the story will go, and that's really exciting to me.

 

My speculation is Snoke was just some dark side artifact collector. Maybe a Sith super fan that found or was called to DS2 and Endor. He was the one that recovered Vader's helmet and other items from Endor/DS2. But he also was possesed by Palpatine in the process. Palpatine being too strong, killed the man that was Snoke and took over his body.

Snoke began his rise to power thanks to his knowledge and Palpatines ability to forsee future events and look inside people's minds. That would make it very easy to manipulate yourself into power. Now his body is decayed because it cannot hold the dark side power of Palpatines spirit. After Snoke was chopped in half, Palpatines spirit went back to DS2.

 

They look the same too me?



But I guess this gets a pass from you based on your logic? The creator himself couldn't get the emperor right.

 

Kylo killing Snoke was a given from TFA. I always thought so. Snoke and the full details are interesting but unnecessary. He is a political figure and Kylo's first master. But Kylo was always the BBEG he might change his ways but it was never Snoke that subverted the happy ending from ROTJ. Luke was going to rebuild the Jedi, Han and Leia were going to live happily ever after. Kylo destroyed the happy family, Kylo betrayed Luke and killed a generation of Jedi. Even before TFA rolled. The idea that JJ created Snoke with another purpose other than to serve as stepping stone to Kylo missed the most emotional clues.

 

This isn’t the OT. They had an opportunity to have a well thought out consistent looking character for the bi-annual film release of the new planned trilogy. Snoke has several different features in TLJ. His bone structure and scars are very different, along with his body language, so much in fact that many people have discussed theories that he was regenerating between films. There has been much debate about this. Also, Lucas fixed his consistency issue with Palpatine in TESB. Perhaps I expect too much from a modern SW film.

 

So I have just spotted a young Snoke in Game of Thrones season 2 (spoiler free).

Seriously is this the inspiration for Snoke or what is going on??? Ridiculous!!

 

Dam son.

 

The splotch on that guy's tooth always bothered me.

 

So this is must be Snoke's backstory. At least this would explain why he wasn't around the events of the OT.

 

That guy would be great actor for a movie about Snoke

 

Young Snoke : A Star Wars Story

 

Lolololololololololololololololololol

 

Part of my problem with Snoke is that we never really know what his motivations are or even what his goals are. It was clear the Emperor wanted to rule the Galaxy but Snoke? Why did he even want Kylo? Why did he want Rey? Why was he after Luke since Luke had no intention of intervening.

 

Snoke: "Hmm. The mighty Kylo Ren. When I found you, I saw what all masters live to see: Raw, untamed power... and beyond that, something truly special. The potential of your bloodline. A new Vader. Now, I fear I was mistaken."

He wanted to make Kylo Ren his Vader, no, a better Vader!

Firstly he wanted to turn her because she seems stronger than his current apprentice. Secondly to find out where Luke is hidding.

He didn't know that. He wanted him dead because he feared his return:
"If Skywalker returns, the new Jedi will Rise."

=> The Rise Of Skywalker

 

After thinking about it for awhile. I think the point of Snoke is to show Kylo as different than Vader was with Palpatine. His choices. Kylo took a different route. And probably out of fear. But by doing what he did he really set forth his destiny. Whatever that may be.

 

he's just the catalyst for what's happening in the sequels. Nothing more