1. Notification emails are working properly again. Please check your email spam folder and if you see any emails from the Cantina there, make sure to mark them as "Not Spam". This will help a lot to whitelist the emails and to stop them going to spam.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. IMPORTANT! To be able to create new threads and rate posts, you need to have at least 30 posts in The Cantina.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Before posting a new thread, check the list with similar threads that will appear when you start typing the thread's title.
    Dismiss Notice

What does “Saga Ends” mean?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Xeven, Sep 14, 2019.

  1. Xeven

    Xeven Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2015
    Posts:
    1,095
    Likes Received:
    1,092
    Trophy Points:
    6,242
    Credits:
    2,748
    Ratings:
    +2,188 / 223 / -104
    With force ghosts, Sith artifacts, other force users continuing to exist? How does it end?
    Kylo die?
    Rey die?
    Palpatine die?
    Force itself die?
    Disney die?
    Jedi die?
    Sith die?
    What ends?
    Skywalkers?
    Force Skywalkers to end so would their force ghosts?
    Is this the End of Star Wars? No more future?

    Why would Disney want to end a multi billion dollar Saga? Pride?
     
    • Clouded Clouded x 3
    • Cute Cute x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  2. Bluemilk

    Bluemilk I AM the Senate

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2014
    Posts:
    4,262
    Likes Received:
    8,353
    Trophy Points:
    91,002
    Credits:
    11,895
    Ratings:
    +13,844 / 149 / -70
    I don't think it is the end, end...but it is the end of the Skywalkers
     
    • Wise Wise x 4
    • Like Like x 2
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  3. Lord of the Rens

    Lord of the Rens Jedi General

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2015
    Posts:
    1,729
    Likes Received:
    24,864
    Trophy Points:
    149,617
    Credits:
    22,722
    Ratings:
    +27,272 / 117 / -38
    Why no poll, bro?
     
    • Funny Funny x 6
  4. Porco Azzurro

    Porco Azzurro Jedi Commander

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2019
    Posts:
    452
    Likes Received:
    10,960
    Trophy Points:
    89,067
    Credits:
    4,730
    Ratings:
    +11,675 / 1 / -0
    *thinking out loud post*

    It's the end of the Skywalker saga, so I take that to mean that it's the end of the saga about the Skywalker family being front-and-centre of the storyline in a Star Wars film. It's further re-inforced by having the Skywalker saga films contained within the 'Episode_??' titles, which does not mean we couldn't get future 'Episode'-titled films, but they just might not be about the Skywalker saga anymore.

    Given that Ben Solo is a Solo and Rey is... whatever Rey is... future films could possibly still be connected to those charaters without necessarily being about the Skywalker saga directly I guess. Or we could have entirely new lead characters but still have 'Episode... ' whatever number to give it the sense of importance, that they would be a central film to the universe that everything else would spring forth from to some degree.

    Of course the other option is that this isn't actually the end. Things change, and Episode III was supposedly the last film to be about the Skywalker saga when it was released, so you never know. Everyone saying this is definitely the end could completely believe what they are saying, and then a new head of Disney comes in, a new head of Lucasfilm comes in, and all of a sudden you've got Episodes X, XI and XII all about continuing the Skywalker saga. I think this is more likely if whatever they do afterwards fails (hopefully not though).

    It's the end... for now.
     
    • Like Like x 4
    • Wise Wise x 2
  5. Kylocity

    Kylocity Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2017
    Posts:
    1,086
    Likes Received:
    2,484
    Trophy Points:
    7,817
    Credits:
    3,537
    Ratings:
    +3,419 / 31 / -16
    The end of a saga means that the conflict presented at the beginning is resolved, making the story go full circle. It doesn't necessarily mean somebody has to die or something to end... So what has to be resolved is either Palpatine's dark or the dark side disturbing the galaxy, or the fulfilment of the prophecy of the chosen one, or the failing of the Jedi order, or a galactic republic that is way too oligarchic, or all of the above.
     
    #5 Kylocity, Sep 14, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2019
    • Wise Wise x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • Cool Cool x 1
  6. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2019
    Posts:
    834
    Likes Received:
    1,279
    Trophy Points:
    5,592
    Credits:
    1,413
    Ratings:
    +2,055 / 104 / -32
    The "Skywalker Saga" equals the "episodic" numbered films that Lucas started in 1977, so the phrase "end of the Saga" means an end to those films.

    It's not really that hard to figure out.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
    • Clouded Clouded x 1
    • Dislike Dislike x 1
  7. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Rebel General

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2018
    Posts:
    735
    Likes Received:
    1,331
    Trophy Points:
    4,842
    Credits:
    1,614
    Ratings:
    +1,925 / 126 / -51
    It is a buzzword phrase to generate publicity and get people into the theater. We know for a fact that Star Wars is not ending. We know for a fact there will be more movies (not to mention D+ shows, books, comics, etc). I personally believe there will eventually be Episodes 10/11/12 somewhere down the line.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Wise Wise x 3
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  8. The Last Jorgny

    The Last Jorgny Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2017
    Posts:
    232
    Likes Received:
    1,489
    Trophy Points:
    7,492
    Credits:
    2,169
    Ratings:
    +1,673 / 4 / -0
    I think they truly mean that this is the last episodic movie in the saga, and that we will have a nine-part saga in the end. They will not stop making movies because of that, but they will not be numbered episodes. I kind of like that idea myself.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Wise Wise x 1
  9. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2019
    Posts:
    834
    Likes Received:
    1,279
    Trophy Points:
    5,592
    Credits:
    1,413
    Ratings:
    +2,055 / 104 / -32
    I don't.

    Lucasfilm has already proven that the SW brand can viably expand beyond the "Saga" films, and so there's no need or incentive to 'leave the door open' for potentially reviving that particular piece of the franchise now or in the future.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  10. NinjaRen

    NinjaRen Supreme Leader

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2015
    Posts:
    4,408
    Likes Received:
    98,557
    Trophy Points:
    170,017
    Credits:
    52,978
    Ratings:
    +106,337 / 161 / -32
    "The Saga comes to an end." means that the Skywalker saga will be told by Episode IX.

    But ending the Skywalker saga doesn't mean that the Skywalkers will die. Just their story will end.

    IMO the most satisfying end for this saga would be if Kylo breaks the "Skywalker's Curse". He destroys THE enemy, redeems himself and lives.
     
    • Like Like x 4
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  11. SKB

    SKB Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2015
    Posts:
    2,450
    Likes Received:
    2,928
    Trophy Points:
    11,367
    Credits:
    6,472
    Ratings:
    +7,168 / 413 / -290
    Saga Ends = No more "Episode" films, basically.
    George Lucas also said "no more" in 2012 after Redtails bombed, and just before he sold Lucasfilm....
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Cocky Cocky x 1
    • Old News Old News x 1
  12. Steven Lewis

    Steven Lewis Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Posts:
    103
    Likes Received:
    189
    Trophy Points:
    977
    Credits:
    544
    Ratings:
    +249 / 1 / -1
    While I agree the end of the Saga means the end of the Episodes and the Skywalker story. There will always be a possibility that Disney might comeback after a decade to continue it. If there is a demand for more and they think money can be made you can be sure of it, otherwise why does the likes of Terminator keep returning.......and yes I realise it's a different film company.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  13. DailyPlunge

    DailyPlunge Jedi General

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2016
    Posts:
    3,785
    Likes Received:
    11,772
    Trophy Points:
    142,767
    Credits:
    12,239
    Ratings:
    +16,364 / 294 / -95
    If Star Wars is going to have a long term future in feature films they're gonna have to get away from the Skywalker films. Emerging international markets don't have a history with the original trilogy so the challenge will be making something they like. It was tough to do that with the ST because the OT gang is such a big part of the story it's hurt the development of new cast. A new series will have more time to focus on new characters.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  14. Wolfpack

    Wolfpack Rebel General

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2018
    Posts:
    735
    Likes Received:
    1,331
    Trophy Points:
    4,842
    Credits:
    1,614
    Ratings:
    +1,925 / 126 / -51
    I think they kinda really haven't proven that. Oh sure, they make TV shows and books and comics but those are nothing more than a drop in the bucket compared to the billions they can make with a hit movie trilogy and related merchandising.

    Movies (and movie-related merchandising) is where the money is. As far as non-episodic movies are concerned, they had one hit and one miss. If the announced D&D trilogy is more miss than hit, it really wouldn't take much more than some genius Disney exec to say "gee, the SW episodic movies make more money than the others, so let's go with more of those....."
     
    • Like Like x 4
  15. Jaxxon

    Jaxxon Jedi Commander

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2017
    Posts:
    862
    Likes Received:
    10,282
    Trophy Points:
    89,117
    Credits:
    7,918
    Ratings:
    +11,627 / 29 / -4
    Disney has made a point of referring to this as the "Skywalker Saga." With that in mind, I suspect we'll get definitive ends for Kylo and Leia.

    But I wouldn't be surprised if one of the upcoming projects--Rian's trilogy or the B&W films--ends up being referred to as "the _______ Saga."
     
    • Like Like x 4
    • Wise Wise x 3
  16. Jedi MD

    Jedi MD Jedi Commander

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2014
    Posts:
    3,568
    Likes Received:
    7,838
    Trophy Points:
    88,637
    Credits:
    19,478
    Ratings:
    +11,125 / 60 / -6
    I agree. The term Skywalker saga is a new term. I think there are going to be other “sagas”. The term saga currently only refers to the episodic movies but that will likely change moving forward. The end of the Skywalker saga means that the story of the Skywalkers is coming to an end. The Skywalker saga will be episodes I-IX. They still could continue with an Episode X down the line and it would be continuation of the story without the Skywalkers. Episode X could be the start of a new saga of stories that feeds off of what happened in the ST
     
    • Like Like x 3
  17. Porco Azzurro

    Porco Azzurro Jedi Commander

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2019
    Posts:
    452
    Likes Received:
    10,960
    Trophy Points:
    89,067
    Credits:
    4,730
    Ratings:
    +11,675 / 1 / -0
    I for one look forward to the long underscore saga very much ;):D
     
    • Funny Funny x 4
  18. Jaxxon

    Jaxxon Jedi Commander

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2017
    Posts:
    862
    Likes Received:
    10,282
    Trophy Points:
    89,117
    Credits:
    7,918
    Ratings:
    +11,627 / 29 / -4
    And if we're lucky, perhaps John Williams will score under the underscore Saga
     
    • Funny Funny x 4
  19. Xeven

    Xeven Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2015
    Posts:
    1,095
    Likes Received:
    1,092
    Trophy Points:
    6,242
    Credits:
    2,748
    Ratings:
    +2,188 / 223 / -104
    It seems like they did that already...they seem to have failed to define new big bad or even a new big good so they had to go back and refinish the old big bad? I do not yet even see how these two films continue the Anakin Skywalker saga except that Kylo is his grandson. Luke was already done, Han was done, Leia was still engaged in the resistance but not really in a way that related to Darth Vader story.

    Not sure they have showed us anything that still needed ending?
    --- Double Post Merged, Sep 16, 2019, Original Post Date: Sep 16, 2019 ---
    But Luke...
     
  20. Rodney-2187

    Rodney-2187 Guest

    Credits:
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    The Beginning is the End is the Beginning
     
    • Wise Wise x 5
Loading...

Share This Page