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SPECULATION What if Kylo in the rain wasn't evil, per se?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by BespinMinersUnion1138, Apr 23, 2017.

  1. BespinMinersUnion1138

    BespinMinersUnion1138 Force Sensitive

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    So what if during Rey's force back, the KOR and Kylo aren't performing an evil act at that moment? What if she's seeing them before they've gone full evil?

    Follow me here:

    Luke's been training he and other young padawans, when he secretly meets up with some dark side groupies that he and Luke have come across from time to time and forms the KOR. But here is the key. What if at first he thinks he can use the dark for justice in the galaxy? What if that rain scene in the Forceback were he and his posse taking out some sort of pirate group that was about to kill a bunch of kids? Maybe even Rey? What if Luke refused to intervene because its not the Jedi way to fight unless being attacked. So Kylo goes and murders a bunch of bad guys etc and then sees young Rey there as a baby. He brings her to Luke with him because he senses the Force in her. But then maybe he sees a vision that she will eventually kill him, so he drops her off on Jakku. So time passes, and Kylo finds out after Bloodline through the holonet that he's Vader's grandson and suppose he's always had questions about the dark side and temptations, but Luke and Leia always pushed him away from his instincts. So he finds out and gets pissed about it. He meets up with his groupies and Luke finds out about their murderous rampage in the rain. While Luke goes away to perhaps consult ghost Yoda and Kenobi, Kylo and his posse show up at Luke's temple and try to turn a bunch of the students to their side. It gets out of hand. Bing, bang, boom they are all dead and Kylo has serious guilt over it. Luke shows up just as the place is burning down and Kylo goes to find Snoke, who all this time has been calling to him.

    So Kylo is dealing with all of the anger and guilt, but inside he is actually super caring and good.
     
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    Yeah I like this...Ben uses the dark side for defense but completely gives in to it causing him to go full HAM and go on a rampage after learning about his lineage but Luke is overpowered somehow by so many people at once and kylo showing his saber in the trailer is him showing it to alike as a betrayal/warning but refuses to hurt his uncle because he loves him but hanged by over time leading to him killing his dad eventually.

    Or it could be at a rebel base and he is about to kill his mom but stops and force chokes her until she only passes out.

    Sorry for the tangent.
     
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    I should add he does his dark side justice thing for years - which is one of the reasons why Leia sends him away to Luke directly to train. He only uses the red saber when he's with the dark side groupies. I could see him saving Rey, she being trained for a few years and then he has the visions and maybe a little goading from Snoke that she's dangerous.

    Luke probably has no idea Ben is also this Kylo guy. So he only finds out about it after finding Ben's Kylo mask or maybe even the red saber.

    The way I came up with this was to show how Ben could save Rey and then drop her off at Jakku and end up with Snoke. I think its interesting we see the Kylo Rain scene then she gets dropped off then we go to Starkiller forest and he's back. It's almost as if we see Luke's past and then Rey's.
     
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    Maybe KoR just st watched Rey kill all those people.
     
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    maybe because they don't have saber weapons or FS.
     
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    A Rey rampage, ouch.
     
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    Maybe she couldn't contain her power and accidentally killed everyone which is why she wasn't put on jakku, which explains why she is suddenly so powerful. Kyle could still be Ben with the red saber and just simply preferred it. Maybe kylo isn't evil at all but is going with the flow of things for his own survival because he knows he's weak deep down .
     
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