SPECULATION What if Obi-Wan had hidden Leia on Tatooine instead?

That last shot, with Beru and Owen holding Baby Luke and watching the Twin Suns, in Episode 3 is so freaking beautiful.

Leads perfectly into "a new hope."

 

Considering that it was never Obi-Wan's choice that Leia ended up with the Organas, I find that speculation hard to buy. Now, if Senator Organa had decided to raise Luke instead of Leia, this speculation would make sense to me.

 

I think you missed the point.

 

Are you sure? Whilst it's clear that they told Luke his last name was Skywalker, I don't see any reason to presume that they told everyone else what his real surname was.

 

If that happened it would probably leia would be a jedi and luke a diplomat

 

This is where you kind of have to fudge with Star Wars "facts" because it wasn't planned as a saga from the get go, at least not how it turned out.

Lucas was never sure a second movie would ever get made. So he rolled with Skywalker from day 1.
Had he been guaranteed a sequel from the get, he may have played it as Luke Lars (Bond villain) who discovers he is a Skywalker.

 

Yeah, plus at that point Vader wasn't meant to be Luke's father and Anakin really was a separate person.

 

Yep. Lucas, for all he did, did not have this as thoroughly planned out as he claims.
There's nothing wrong with it, it just seems odd he'd never admit it.

 

And yet many who are more informed on the matter attest to the existence of a backstory that already existed in numerous drafts at the time of the making of the first Star Wars film.

 

Well Lucas had been working on Star Wars for years and had mapped out a lot of different possible stories, and it evolved over time. The saga Lucas envisioned early on and in the Journal Of The Whills was very different to the one that ended up being made. He had A saga envisioned but the one we came to know was kind of born from his inability to actually make the whole thing and the fact that he was probably just going to be making one film. He took bits and pieces from what he had come up with and cobbled together the most entertaining movie possible from it. And a lot of those other parts would later go on to form parts of other films and the PT, while a lot was altered or discarded. But it didn't end up becoming recognizable as Star Wars or ANH until like the third or fourth draft of the script after he'd given up on his saga. As late as the second or third draft Luke had a father who was not a bad guy, he was a good Jedi. And as late as the first draft of The Empire Strikes Back they were still separate people, as it had Luke being visited by the ghost of his father. So, from a certain point of view, he did have Star Wars worked out in his head for years before the movies, it was just very different from what he made.

 

I know.

It's not a question of "point of view", though, that he had copious notes and backstory written down - much of which we have not been privy to but their existence has been confirmed by those who are close to them and/or have worked for him. Consequently, it's not for us to speculate or question the validity of Lucas having the story worked out in one shape or other, because it's already been confirmed as fact.

 

It is, however, fair to say he didn't have the full story on it planned. He didn't . I don't know why you felt that was "clouded."

He didn't know the lineage plans that early. It's okay. It's just something we accept, well most of us.

 

He never claimed to have the whole thing thoroughly planned out, though, did he? As for your assertion that "most" people feel as you do on this issue, then that claim is also "clouded" (unless you've done an international survey of the fans in which case feel free to share your findings).

Forum members' use of the rating system is something with which you're going to have to live, I'm afraid.

 

They also use the quote feature to continue conversations, but you seem to avoid that.

He claims it was the story he always intended to tell.

Yet it wasn't always set that Anakin Skywalker (Luke's father) would be Darth Vader. Or that he and Leia were siblings.

This is why it may have become the story but not always.

 

Isn't that what you're claiming though? The only reason I brought anything up about it having not been planned out because sometimes when you're having a Star Wars discussion it can't always be framed in terms of canon, sometimes the answer to a question is "that was retconned", "they hadn't come up with that idea yet", etc. The point being discussed was why didn't they change Luke's name on Tatooine if they were so scared of Vader and the Empire. Well you can sit around and try to justify the decision in-universe, but the simple answer is that George didn't yet know that Vader was going to be a Skywalker, Luke didn't need an alias in the first film. And then you come in saying people "more informed" say he had the stories worked out ahead of time, and that it's not our place to question that. This is a Star Wars message board, it's THE place to discuss such things. We weren't saying that George made Star Wars up in a day, but the idea that George had these movies planned out ahead of time in each episode with the plot, characters and relationships which we know today is just flat out wrong. The Star Wars movies sort of rose from the ashes of George's original plans. I'm not sure why this is even a debate, and it's not one I really wanted to get drawn into as it's off topic.

 

Can you point me to a moment in A New Hope where there is any evidence that Owen and Beru told everyone that Luke's surname is Skywalker? (You know, while I'm sitting around trying to justify things.)