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GAME What kind of fan are you?

Discussion in 'Random Discussion' started by Devizz, Jul 22, 2016.

  1. Devizz

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    Interesting topic. Well, folks who know me around here would say that I'm a staunch supporter of the First Order - and they'd be right!
    In terms of a more meta outlook, and in regards to your survey, I got hardcore optimistic. I consider that to be a true statement and it has been like that ever since I stumbled upon the original movies on my dad's VHS.

    I've been cautious of Disney's intent with Star Wars ever since the acquisition, but the Force Awakens has inverted those doubts into a more hopeful outlook for what's to come. It truly is a great time to be a Star Wars fan and my personal favorite - it's a great time to see others become Star Wars fans for the first time.

    P. S. I'll be sorely disappointed in anyone who doesn't vote Jar Jar as the Star Wars Jesus, at least for the hell of it.
     
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  3. Devizz

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    I am glad you got the right outcome, I am still tweaking the quiz. Also, voting for Jar Jar causes you to download a virus. :p
     
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    i got negative purist ~ i suspect because i don't care for the PT, but frankly, that's antithetical to how i actually feel about Star Wars.
    i consider myself at least an optimistic purist at worst.

    that said, i'm with @Alamact as a staunch Centrist-swilling First Order thrall ~ hahaha
     
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    I got hardcore optimistic. I think that's the right term for my fandom.
    I remember the first time watching A New Hope if it were yesterday. It was on Christmas Eve, my older brothers got the VHS trilogy box of Star Wars and then we watched the first movie. I was really young at that time and I didn't understand that much. But it was still awesome.

    That 'Jesus' question was tough. I really had to think about that question but then I chose Dave Filoni. :D
     
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    Hm, thanks for your feedback, I'll take it into consideration when tweaking the quiz's outcomes.
     
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    Dammit! I *knew* answering correctly had to penalize me in some way!
    He really is at this point, isn't he? He'd be my non-joke pick. I'd wager he's the guy who understands the most about Star Wars now that Lucas is retired.
    Never pegged you for a purist, FN! Although there is one change in the new lore that I'm personally not a fan of.
     
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    Dave Filoni is really into Star Wars. He has many nice ideas and is also a good director. I would love to see a spin-off movie directed by him.
     
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    i don't know how your algorithm works, but perhaps consider that you can't be a "negative" purist if you love TFA.
    that outcome makes sense if you don't like TFA.

    i cop to it, i do. as a child of the OT gen it's just the way my blood boils.
    but as such, i just reject what comes before the OT, not what has followed.
    what's the new lore you're not liking? do tell!
     
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    Does that include the Old Republic era too, or just the Clone Wars?
    Well, I have a small pet peeve about the way lightsaber crystals now work. Why can't it be a two-way connection? Like, both the user and the crystal choose their counterpart. I'm all for lightsaber crystals being connected to the Force and being attuned to their user specifically, that's an interesting concept that makes the whole thing more mystical, but I still think they should start with a base color and not be "filled up" with whatever the user currently exhibits as a dominant trait. I mean, just imagine the awkwardness of being a Jedi youngling off to get his very own lightsaber crystal. You construct your lightsaber and proudly show it to your master: Oops! It's red!

    "Master, I didn't mean to! I swear!"
    "I'm telling Yoda!"
    "Master! Please, DON'T!"
    "You should have thought about that before giving in to your hatred!"
     
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    Hardcore optimistic for me. I really enjoy all of Star Wars, prequels and Legends included, but the new canon and movies are great too. So this makes sense. KOTOR is still my favorite Star Wars story though.
     
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    i actually don't have an opinion on the now-Legends stuff. so it's not that i dislike it, it just doesn't exist to me (or rather, i subjectively pick and choose what i like out of it). and it's not really the idea of the Clone Wars or the Old Republic; it's just that business of trying to connect it to the OT and beyond ~ i'm not a "look back" sort of person generally. i like my stories to move forward. the past is past. it may inform the present and future, but i never felt the need to know those stories as i preferred to use my imagination to picture it for myself.

    hahaha! i am all on the side of less is more where it comes to the Force and "magic" and powers and whatnot.
    i don't want the Force explained, or to know how it works, or for it to have "rules". it just is. and what that means to everybody is different.

    the minute you start explaining things and enforcing some kind of logic, it gets dogmatic, people start arguing about it, and then it just becomes another alienating religion instead of being an infinite power that anyone can embrace in infinite ways. that's what Lucas did to it in the PT and i will emphatically reject that to the end of my days; for me it goes against everything that made Star Wars universal.

    i mean, just look at the arguments people have here in the Cantina about mind-reading and downloading Force powers and midichlorians and whether Vader should have known Leia was his daughter and whether Luke would recognize Rey and blah blah blah. it's really kind of unfortunate.
     
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    Agreed. SW Storys (and of course love stories) loose a lot of their mystery and power because of analysing and explaining to much. The cool thing about fantasy galaxies is that there hopefully remains enough space for personal interpretation and imagination and that the meanings of the force can mean sthg different for everyone :).
     
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    I got hardcore, optimistic. Watched all shows except 2003 clone wars, still catching up on the clone wars canon version. Read alot of new canon, nothing of legends yet. Of course watched the films, enjoyed them all. Exception of the prequels which I partly liked.
     
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    Big thanks to everyone that completed the quiz.

    Approximate stats after 450 quiz completions:

    45% got Hardcore, optimistic
    19% got Optimistic
    15% got Hardcore, sceptical
    10% got Sceptical
    8% got Hardcore, negative purist
    2% got Negative purist
    1% got Wannabe
     
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    I got hardcore optimistic. I love SW with all my heart and I really hope that the saga becomes even better and doesn't go downhill as I think it's going. Thinking about some of the questions in the survey makes me think, a real man admits his mistakes and if there is one mistake that I admit is having gotten real happy with Lucas sold the property to Disney. While I am not a PT basher as I love them just as much as I love the OT, I was mad at Lucas for never having the courage to go past ROTJ. As much as I love Clone Wars, Rebels and the Prequels, I always wanted George to tackle the stories that would come after the OT but he always seemed to scared of going that way. When he sold out to Disney and I heard the news that the story was moving forward, I was real pumped and thought that I was finally going to get what I had wanted after so long. Finally someone that was braver than Lucas was going to take control and move the story onward. How wrong I was. The story I always wanted to see was a cheap rehash filled with fan service and nostagia feed that ruined the OT characters I have always loved apart from the fact that they also took the EU which was awesome was just tossed in the garbage. That was a real slap in the face while at the same time hearing Disney laugh in my face telling me that they were running things now so deal with it.

    Sorry I ever doubted you Lucas. Sure you were not perfect but none of us are. I can't help looking at TFA without wondering how it would have turned out if you had done it. I take back what I said about you and wish it were you running things as I prepare myself for Rogue One and can't stop feeling nervous that it will be just like TFA. :(
     
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    I really enjoyed TFA, I know a lot of people that didn't though (most of my friends really hate it). Have you seen The Clone Wars and Rebels?
     
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    Well, would you look at that, @FN-3263827! You're in the 2%! Embrace the nonconformity!
    How does one score "wannabe", I wonder? Is it a person who likes only the PT and nothing else? Do they consider Jar Jar the best thing since sliced bread? Or is it more of a "TFA and done" kind of fan? I have a couple of friends who fall in that category. I just can't seem to get them to watch A New Hope no matter how much I try, and they consider Luke to be the ultimate badass from what little they've seen of him in TFA. I usually approach them with (paraphrased):

    "Well, do you want to see more of him?"
    "Yes, please!"
    "How about you watch Episodes IV, V and VI, then? You also get to see why Kylo Ren loves his grandpa so much!"
    "Eh... I'll just wait for Episode VIII, then."
    "Fine. Maybe give Rogue One a try? It's like a prequel to A New Hope! You can then proceed to watch the Original Trilogy after that."
    "I thought you said Episode III was the prequel to A New Hope?"
    "...What I told you was true, from a certain point of view."
    "Yeah, still not going to happen!"

    Funny thing is, they want to know more about the universe and want me to play the part of a storyteller, instead of just going through the movies (and possibly TV shows/novels/games) on their own.
     
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    Well I can't really blame them, you're a pretty funny storyteller.:D
    Would they agree to an OT-centered interactive comic? That could get the job done (if only with some slight "embellishing").
     
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    Thanks! I try my best. I've considered something like that, actually - but it also presents a problem. I've always felt that the interactivity and the "sandbox" mode of storytelling present in the current comic is one of its greatest strengths.

    For example, we started with naught but a lone grumpy Jedi on board a starship littered with some random generic Chiss extras. Could anyone really anticipate that this one nameless bald Chiss officer would end up becoming our very own mix of Darth Sidious and Thrawn? I'm not sure if I can call him a villain yet, but he's certainly our current major antagonist alongside Grabba and Antaganis - I feel that Snote genuinely cares for his people and probably isn't in it for the power. If Doop was just directed to escape to the pods without facing Grand Admiral Snote in the Prologue, it would have created one hell of a butterfly effect:
    • Missy would never be introduced.
    • Dantooine wouldn't be the climax of Act One.
    • The Chiss Ascendancy would not be a major third faction.
    • Jun would begin his adventure on Coruscant.
    • Lunk would *probably* not exist.
    • Ratchet would probably take Missy's place as the "Smuggler" archetype.
    • The Mandalorian Jedi would join the story earlier than currently planned (early Act II).
    And this just accounts for one choice, mind you. Now imagine placing an interactive retelling of the OT, even with embellishments - we'd end up with Luke on the Dark Side with C-3P0 as his Sith apprentice - and this would be the least dramatic of the oddities! Of course, the alternative would be keeping the plot linear and constricted, and I feel that's not a very fun way to go.

    But I'm not sure if this is the right thread for such discussion (even though it's technically "random discussion"), so I won't derail the thread further.
     
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