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What Lucas was really telling us with the Midi-chlorians

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Grand Admiral Kraum, Jan 17, 2018.

  1. RoyleRancor

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    All of that works...and sounds like a great way to get the full point across.
    Give Obi-Wan something to do that gives him a connection to the "natural" force to build on the conflict within him...
     
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    Oh God.
     
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    I had never considered this reading. It fits thematically with the OT. I think you're right. It also helps me get over Qui-Gon lying to Anakin to get the sample. The movie is saying it's the wrong thing to do not a necessary evil like I assumed.
     
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    Midichlorians "thing" never bothered me so much and this vision you OP shared is really good.
    But probably could be better if this vision had some minor explanation in the film, some character saying this in a plausible way, to understand this reading without we haven't to make our own reading over the years, if you know what I mean.

    I'm not saying they have to explain everything in a movie (i always prefer to give us something to imagine) but if this reading of the force is much deeper and affects the meanning of the entire order, probably would have been better to give a glimpse of this lecture if that was the real intention, to show a little more that arrogance of the actual Jedi we are talking about.

    I don't know, when Qui Gon ask for midichlorian count to Obi Wan, i can imagine the padawan saying:

    -Why master? The order rules say we never have to base the force in midichlorians . It's not the way ancient Jedi measured our vision of the Force and living things. Why now?
    -Because sometimes we have our own vision of the rules, young padawan. The order sometimes is agree with this thoughts. Now make that count.
    -Yes, my master. Beep, beep, beep. Wow! Over 20.000..........
     
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    Nothing..the Force was supposed to be a spiritual thing and he tried to give it a scientific explanation.
     
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    Midichlorians... are a microscopic lifeform.

    *What are midichlorians?*

    A microscopic lifeform.
     
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    All nice, and a great way of looking at it....but...

    What Lucas was trying to do was add midichlorians in so he could set up the ability to make 7-9 about the Whills and dicuss how, as he put it, "We're not the boss".

    That's really all there is as far as his intention was.
    To show that we are not the end all; that there's a whole macro level relationship and perspective to the cosmology of the universe and we're just a thing in it.
    The Whills, they drive the fate of things. As he put it, to them we are, "just cars", and midichlorians was how they connect to us to drive us around.

    That is what Lucas has said was and were his intentions.


    That said, since this whole tangent of Lucas is highly unlikely to ever see the light of day, I'd say replace what "Lucas was trying to tell us" and just own the good idea in the OP as a better way to see the whole thing with the midichlorians, because, well...you can, and it's honestly a better view and interpretation than what Lucas was trying to tell us. :)

    Cheers,
    Jayson
     
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    I think the midichlorians were a means to show how all living beings were connected to the Force. All living beings. Not just Force users. Also . . . according to "TPM", the midichlorians served as a symbiont between the Force and living beings. In a way, this was a metaphor of the relationship between the Nabooans and the Gungans . . . or what their relationship was supposed to be . . . and what it had become by the end of the film.
     
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    Part of it is world building. The basic idea of the Force was introduced in the OT, developed in the PT and continued in TCW (Yoda Arc). The final piece was going to be the Whills, a collective consciousness created by all living things, the Force itself. The theme was free will, which Lucas would have developed in 7-9 if he hadn't been sucker punched.
     
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