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What makes TESB the best?

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by Lock_S_Foils, Apr 2, 2017.

  1. RoyleRancor

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    This is where people misconstrue "good" vs "bad" criticism

    Most YouTube critics are the latter. They tell you why things are fun and how much they like things.
    A real critic can and will tell you why they are able to like or dislike things.

    Then you have the butthead critics who do all the right things then laud it over people rather than explaining why or take polar opposite stances of the majority just to stand out. (Looking at that one guy who disliked GET OUT)
     
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    Furthermore, the fundamental evaluative criteria of an art critic is: "did the creator of the piece achieve what he intended to".
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 6, 2017, Original Post Date: Apr 6, 2017 ---
    Real art criticism is never 'negative' or 'positive', and if it is, only in regards to fulfilled or unfulfilled intentions of the creator.
     
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    No critic ever swayed my opinion on anything, be it books, films or music. I trust my own judgement and taste above anything a critic might have to say.
     
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    Clearly the member who claims my comment is clouded thinks they know me better than I know myself. Which is impossible, really. Oh, you have to laugh don't you? Maybe said member is a critic themselves and they bristle at the idea of their occupation being undermined. Or maybe they're one of those insecure types who cling to the opinions of the critics and they take my comment a wee bit too personally. Either way, you can call an opinion clouded but you can't make the same claim about something which is a simple fact, however wounded you may feel by it.

    Anyway, that aside, I've just finished watching Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom on Blu-ray. As a Brit, I'm still getting used to those originally censored scenes - pretty harsh stuff, even by today's standards. The reason I bring it up is simply to allay the the myth that The Empire Strikes Back is the only decent sequel ever made - it isn't - and that it set the standards for the dark second act in a trilogy. Temple Of Doom set a new, much darker standard, one that is more comparable to Revenge of the Sith than Empire. In fact, the more Empire is touted as a "dark" film, the more I question the validity of that statement. It's a mature film, of that I have no doubt, but dark? No, not really.
     
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    I feel the same. Different forms of art has a way of affecting different people in different ways.
     
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    Well dark is kind of a vague term and can mean a lot of things. But I think people just meant it was dark for a Star Wars film, especially for the time. Obviously there are darker films, and now even darker Star Wars films, but it did definitely stand out for the way the good guys got smacked around most of the movie and it didn't have a happy ending. No awards ceremony, no Yub Nub, no stupid glowing ball... they're just lucky to still be alive and who knows if Han will be. Compared to the feel-good excitement of the first film I wouldn't be surprised if people left TESB thinking it was darker.
     
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    I left TESB being berated by my friends (we'd all be treated to a day out at the cinema for a friend's 8th birthday) for cheering on Vader during the duel! I agree: the Rebels get their asses served to them on a plate in that film. And knowing that Vader is Luke's father, watching that scene again is quite disquieting, just to see how much of a battering Vader gives his son. I mean, I'm sure some of us have been smacked by our parents at one time or another but Vader goes too far when it comes to handing out discipline!
     
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    Great battle scenes everytime I watch it with some friends, the excitement buzz in the room gets going.
     
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