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WHAT ONE ELEMENT WOULD YOU CHANGE OF THE ORIGINALS?

Discussion in 'Original Trilogy' started by CTrent29, Dec 17, 2016.

  1. Ty Mitchell

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    More time of grieving during death. I understand this may have made the films a bit more slow paced but when your Auntie and Uncle get burned by troops you'd expect more than a sad face and then 'LETS ALL GO TO ALDERAAN!'
     
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    Probably that Luke/Leia make-out session in ESB. Makes my favorite episode unnecessarily uncomfortable.
     
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    Well, it's either a blooper or Luke's feelings toward Owen and Beru were not that strong to begin with.
     
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    I'm sure growing up during a galactic civil war with mass genocides regularly and potential for this lurking at all times...I'm sure there's a level of preparedness for it along with desire to avenge and destroy those who did this to your family.
     
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    I would have added more politics (seriously).
     
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    Meh even so, you gotta be upset even a little do u see what I mean - like I'm not saying the prequels are great by any stretch of the imagination but they have one thing the OT doesn't - emotion (and I prefer the original trilogy, believe me)
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    Fair enough
     
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    Boba's death is too comical for me. The buy was meant to be a badass who basically captured Han in The Empire Strikes Back. Wanted more of an epic struggle.
     
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    I don't think 1977 was the ideal time for intense political discussions. A general morality tale worked perfectly.
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    Can't imagine living in a desolate wasteland where they have to work hard to harvest water would leave a 20 year old with intense emotional attachment to anything.
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    Leaving things up to the audiences interpretation is a fun part of Star Wars.
     
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    To add to my earlier point, Leia doesn't exactly show any grief either when her whole planet is blown up. Everything she has knows and many loved ones just poof, and she didn't exactly have a hard life so emotional attachments would've been easier to form for her as opposed to Luke
     
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    She looked very despondent when Luke barged in. But didn't break her humor. That's a strength of her character. She was the one comforting Luke after Obi-Wan died, and she had just witnessed Rogue One and Blue Squadron all dying above Scarif, and had been involved with Rebellion activities since she was 14. She is one tough chick.
     
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    Ahhh fair enough fair enough, well played ;)
     
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    Well , then they did their job!
     
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    I agree. There should been way more then just hinting. I think a full on Hoth love scene was needed.
     
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    Five years after ‘Watergate’ and the impeachment of a U.S. President wasn’t the ideal time for intense political discussions?
    I would think the exact opposite. Familial bonds would probably be substantially more significant in that extreme situation.
    Hard to disagree with that :)
     
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    Considering Luke couldn't wait to get to the Imperial Academy and death by Tusken Raider seemed pretty apparent on the regular, pretty sure Luke handled death a bit better than we give him credit for. In fact, better than his father did, which is why Luke is the hero.

    And no, people filed into a theater in 1977 to get away from Watergate & Vietnam...how do intense political discussions usually go around here? Not too much fun. They didn't want Senate meetings and political corruption, they wanted to believe that an innocent farmboy could save the galaxy.
     
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    A protracted mourning scene wouldn’t have been compatible with the fast-paced story Lucas was telling. Probably he just internalized his loss since it was so profound. I doubt he was dismissive about it considering how important bonds are later shown to be to him. These were his parents for all intents and purpose.
    The timeliness is what I’m speaking to. 1977 is precisely the time I’d expect to see politically charged subject matter in film - which was very much the case.

    No doubt the average audience member was craving escapist fantasy. Ironically, they didn’t realize a political commentary was exactly what they were watching. The Empire, for Lucas, represented the Nixon administration and the Rebels represented the Viet Cong. Star Wars was a purpose built Vietnam parable meant to convey his opinions in an innocuous and non-threatening way. But it’s vague enough to see what we want to in it.
     
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    Yes. It's only now that some look back and say that we need "more character" moments to explain everything about a character like a monologue or musical number, and more political bantering - about space wizards and yeti co-pilots - when its already there, handled beautifully without excessive exposition and bogging down the pacing of the films.

    There's a reason we venerate the OT, friends. They were beautifully done.
     
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    Two of my favorite subsequent aspects of Star Wars are 1) finding holes in the stories and 2) figuring out rational ways to plug those holes. Maybe I’m on an island, but that’s part of the fun for me :)
     
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    One element I would change, it doesn't make much sense to put speeder bikes on the Moon of Endor. They were cool but practical in a forest?

    The Luke and Leia incest-kiss was IMHO a blow to Han's ego. Leia's mental bubble says to me, "this will shut him up for moment. show him what he's missing. and Luke was first." But yeah, it still makes me cringe a bit.
     
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    A large enough budget to have the final battle between Luke, Vader and Emperor at The Imperial Palace.
     
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