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What one element would you change of the Prequels?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Batman, Sep 12, 2014.

  1. steakfromjakefarm

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    I would have changed two things in AOTC and ROTS (I won't even start on TPM)

    First of all, I would get somebody to rewrite the script of AOTC. It seems like every single scene they have together, Anakin has something creepy to say. I hate it, especially when they're rolling around in the field. I could deal with Anakin's horrible dialogue if they would just cut that pointless scene out.

    ROTS is one of my favorite movies, but I just hate when Vader yells "NOOOOOOO!" when he finds out Padme died because he Force choked her. I would put all the stuff that happened after Vader was fixed and put it before. ROTS should end with Vader's mask going down over his face and then into blackness, and you hear his breathing once or twice before it ends.
     
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    Tone down The Obi vs Ani duel just a tad. I like the majority of it but some moves feel a bit too flashy and excessive even to a huge PT fan like myself.

    Show a bit more of Anakin/Vader killing Jedi in the temple and more Order 66 in general because its one of the most impactful moment in the entire sage for me. Show more of Jedi getting taken out because its done so well I always want to see more of that.

    Re-cast Padme, Natalie Portman is pretty bad IMO. Kat Taber who voiced her in Clone Wars did it much better.

    Have Ahsoka mentioned at least once in ROTS, or even even show a hologram of her.
     
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    I love that duel. It was my favorite lightsaber duel in all of Star Wars. Anywhere else, the intensity of it might have bothered me. But in this scene, the intensity speaks of a master & apprentice who have been friends for years. They know all of each other's moves, and can anticipate them almost perfectly. For me, the intensity was the perfect climax of ROTS.
     
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    Oh I agree it's a perfect climax to the film and the trilogy and I love how it happens alongside Yoda vs Sidious. I was just nitpicking out of boredom really, Revenge of the Sith is my favourite film of all time.
     
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    She's not from any importance when it comes to the story of Anakin's Downfall to the Darkside, so adding a cameo of her feels so very redundant to me.
     
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    Yeah its not important but just a small thing that'd be pretty neat.
     
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    There's really only one thing I might change. As the trilogy went on, there was some copy-pasting going on with the soundtrack and certain sound effects. I might have tried to put more of an effort into making each scene feel and sound more unique.
     
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    If I could change one thing that would affect the quality of the whole trilogy? Leave Coruscant out of it until the end of the second movie at least.
     
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    I concur.
     
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    I disagree, the Anakin and obi won duel is my favorite duel of the movies, and I agree with the idea of an Ahsoka cameo, maybe of her talking to windu and Yoda when she was called a citizen. and Padme really should have died from the choking, and I agree that rots should have ended with the mask being put on Vader.and i also think that the Anakin and Padme stuff in aotc should really be toned down, and i wish qui gon was mentioned more in 2 & 3 because he very much effected Anakin and obi wons lives
     
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    Nice. I actually like the way rots ended. I liked seeing Luke and Lei find new homes. It is almost symbolic. Vader is born into a new life style, as Anakin’s offspring seek protection in other places (also new lifestyle). I do think Padmé losing the will to live was cleshe and kinda dumb, bur it helps further prove why Anakin was driven to the dark side. I also 100% agree with your thoughts on Anakin vs Obi Wan. Great duel.
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    Also about Anakin and Padmé in Aotc. I do think it is much, but to be fair, the theme in Aotc is forbidden love. So, its kinda like a see saw. 50-50
     
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    So basically he never gets his name and when he burns we dont see him turn into vader... i honestly really like that. you get the surprise of vader being lukes father along with the sadness that comes with seeing ani's fall all in one... thats pretty genius.
     
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    Keeping the identity of the father of Padme's children a secret from the audience until Vader reveals it in Empire sounds like a crazy idea. But it could just have worked. What if Padme had married someone else mid-trilogy in order to prevent Anakin from splitting his loyalties between her and his vocation? But she doesn't know that she's already carrying Anakin's child until shortly after the marriage of convenience and around the same time her new husband dies in the Clone Wars (but on which side?)
     
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    Only if we get THIS in a post credit scene.
     
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    Looking back from my old post and to see if my opinions have changed. Overall, I think most of this still stands in one way or another, but today I have a slightly different opinion.

    Change Padme's role.

    I've talked about this is other places to a degree, and I don't want to go into too much detail since my mind isn't fully made up on what that would look like (and the fact that I have to save some story-beats for a potential PT and/or OT recast/remake draft game), but I think I'd really want to highly the change, if I can only do one thing. Fortunately, this one change in my mind necessitates multiple other changes, hehehe...

    As I have it now, I'd have that people of Naboo combined with the Nightsisters of Dathomir.* Padme would be their Night Queen of sorts. (Title subject to change.) It was a tradition that started out as a way to have someone in power that was easy to manipulate, but since has become a symbol of how the ideas and hopes of children are the purest of them all. The people of Naboo elect someone who can embody those ideals.

    Anyways, Padme's role would be to juxtapose the role of the Anakin. Where one is a leader, the other is an apprentice. Where one is talented in the Dark Side of the Force and uses it for Creation (of a sort), the other is talented in the Light Side, but has his talents lie in their power of Destruction. By the time The Clone Wars come around, Naboo would join with the Separatists, and the two would be cast on opposite sides of the war. Their meetings would be in secret rendezvous near or on battlefields, and it would be a tightrope they walk between their dedication to their respective governments and soldiers, and to each other. Padme would desire a peaceful de-escalation that allowed for the Separatists and the Republic to exist, while Anakin would desire the conquering of them all under the Republic's banner. By the end of the war, Padme would turn to the Light and Anakin to the Dark. After giving birth to the Luke and Leia, Padme would be put in a stasis of sorts to recover, and when she woke up, she'd cut herself off from the Force in order to hide from Vader, and help out the Rebellion.

    Ultimately, I want Padme to become a more emotionally and physically active character in the PT.


    *There would be layers of symbiosis. You'd have the Nightsisters who use the Dark Side; the Gungans who use a neutral aspect of the Force if at all, and an ancient, long-gone race who used the Light Side exclusively. Humans came later, and after a time, were accepted into the Nightsister culture. That is why Dathomirans, Zabraks, and Humans could all exist on one planet together. I imagine that Dathomir would be the given name of the planet while colonizers would call it Naboo, not unlike the whole Indian vs Native American/First American/Indigenous America naming...controversy...
     
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    I agree. I've thought for a while that I think Padmé should have been the central character in the PT. It perhaps could have been about her relationship with Anakin, a bigger focus on her and seen much more for her point of view as she watches the man she falls in love with gradually fall to the dark side.

    It's been said a long time ago that one of the issues with TPM and perhaps the PT as a whole was that there was a lack of a single central character, and I sort of agreed with that.

    But I also used to think it needed somebody we didn't really know the fate of. We know what becomes of Anakin and Obi-Wan, so I always thought the PT needed to be somebody else's story. My first thoughts back then was perhaps another young Jedi (a bit like what they ended up doing when they introduced Ahsoka for the Clone Wars!). But then I realised that potential central character was starring us in the face, and it was Padmé.

    The overall six part story arc would be still be Anakin's (while not been the main central character throughout), but just as the arc for the OT was Luke's, the arc of the PT could have been Padmé's.

    So that's the "one" thing that I might change. Although it would probably have the knock on effect of changing a lot of things!
     
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    Recast Padme, Natalie Portman is probably my least favourite actor from the PT. Cat Taber who voiced Clone Wars Padme did it much better.
     
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    Yeah I can see that. I actually loved Portman as padmé. I wonder how many others feel that way about the actress. I personally thought she did a good job but im sure there are valid reasons why some don’t think so :)
     
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    Padme doesn’t die of sadness. It’s just such a bad way to end her character.
     
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    Yeah. Thats I can agree on. Seems too poetic if that makes sense
     
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