SPOILER What potential spoiler about TFA bothers you the most?

I can handle the potential spoilers mentioned and am prepared to embrace anything that happens. The only thing I am troubled by (and it's not something I worry about too much) is that it appears Luke's efforts to train more Jedi was stunted and put to an end at some point. I never expected there to be more than a handful of Jedi by the time of the ST, but from what we have heard we don't know that there are even a handful.

 

Honestly, the rumor about Rey fighting Kylo on a crumbling cliff, with Rey and Finn being rescued at the last second by the Falcon. Seriously, that trope is laughably tired. There's absolutely no suspense left in it. It's a sign that no one could think of a better idea so they just went with what was on the shelf. That bugs me.

 

The use of super weapons seems tired, I wish that they would use that idea for IX and not right off the bat. But it is the next trilogy of a massive franchise so the stakes have to be high and I have no other better alternative ideas. As long as it isn't a complete ripoff of the Death Star I won't have much of a problem with it.

 

Taking them one at time:

Luke's screen time doesn't bother me as he will be a presence throughout the film whether he appears on screen or not. If done right, Luke's appearance could be the most powerful moment in the movie.

Han dying doesn't bother me either. It would add some real gravitas to the whole thing, assuming it isn't cheesy.

Super weapons are a staple of the OT.

The lightsaber falling from space, that bothers me. Assuming that it actually comes down like a meteorite. If it is metaphorical and crash lands on a mission it would work. Think about the opening of ANH. The Death Star plans landing with R2 on the sands of Tatooine is what drove the entire movie and is arguably the reason we are all here discussing this. While I'm on the topic, it drive's me nuts that it is always referred to as Luke's lightsaber. All he did with it was cut the arm off a wampa and then drop it along with his hand when he got a little to big for his britches with it when the real owner needed to make a point.

It. Is. Anakin's. Lightsaber. Luke used it, but he certainly didn't earn it. The ROTJ blade is Luke's.

 

Han and Leia never being married or being separated. That just doesn't fit with where Han and Leia were at the end of Jedi. Some people want a roguish Han who refuses to settle down, but that gets rid of his character growth in ESB and ROTJ. He can still be Han AND be married.
It just feels like a "fan" who doesn't like how the character evolved just ignoring 2/3rds of the OT. If they have a good reason that they have been separated that isn't due to Han wanting to "be free" and they make it clear that they are still in love, they might be able to pull it off.
How do you just reset the great "I love you - I know" from Empire and Jedi?

At this point I find the Superweapon an interesting enigma. We really don't have a good handle on what it is or how it works. If it is planet based, how effective is it? What kind of range does it have? How exactly is it powered.
I don't have a problem with a superweapon as long as it is an interesting departure from the Death Stars. It makes sense that the villains, and heroes, would want something that can do massive damage. It reflects real world warfare.

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But it was the saber that was symbolically handed down from father to son, so it became Luke's saber, and as he was the only one we saw use it in the OT (other than Han) we tend to identify it with Luke.

 

Well, for starters, I just want to say that I hate being negative. I'm honestly excited for these movies. I might be a little concerned we'll go into Star Wars burnout in a few years with the way Disney is planning on cranking them out (seriously - we're doubling the amount of Star Wars movies over then next 5 years). But overall, I couldn't be happier that we're getting more movies.

With that said, the rumor that concerns me the most is going to fall in the Other category.

I'm a little disappointed to hear how much of the happy ending in Jedi is being negated. Look, I've read the articles. Yes, in the real world Empires don't fall over night. But seriously, this isn't the real world. This is fantasy. Would it have been unreasonable for the OT heroes to have had some peace and joy for awhile?

Instead it sounds like Han and Leia are estranged, they may not know their children or their children might not know them, Han might not have the Falcon, Luke failed at rebuilding the Jedi, Luke is in exile, we may not even see all three OT heroes stand side by side again. I'm sorry, but that's kind of a depressing way to start a new trilogy. Personally, I almost would rather it have been the reason new heroes are needed is because the OT group is too old to do it anymore - not because they failed.

I once read something that described why you have to be careful with sequels. They can diminish the impact of the original when you look at the story as a whole. A sequel to Lord of the Rings would be difficult because it would diminish the impact of Frodo's journey and destruction of the ring. A sequel to Harry Potter could reduce the importance of Harry overcoming Voldemort.

Not saying it will, but I really, really, really hope this trilogy doesn't diminish Luke's victory in redeeming Vader.

 

That may be a reason Lucas reportedly had his leads be grandchildren. That way they could have more peace time before things heated up.

But they may have had at least 20 years or so of relative peace before TFA, if the "Luke disappeared 10 years prior" rumor is true.
It's also possible that the Galaxy isn't anywhere near the Dark Times of the Empire and this is more like a Cold War about to heat up. It could be more about preventing another Empire rather than ending one, with Rey, Finn, Poe etc being the new guardians of peace and justice making sure there are no more Dark Times.

 

Good points. That's what I'm hoping will be the case when we see it all play out. Either way, I'm not going to judge until I've seen it. I'm looking forward to December 18.

 

You hit that spot on. There is no justice or good reason for Luke being a sad, washed up, old man, hiding on some desolate planet because he "failed", as many reports suggest. I don't care what it does for the story. That isn't the Luke Skywalker that we all know and love. I honestly feel that Luke missed all opportunities to fail in the OT. I don't think that it's necessary for Luke to have failed in any way in the ST. Luke's character was never some sad emo boy as Anakin's was. So why would he leave everything behind, rather than help restore order? Especially if his pupils were all killed by "sith" or some greater threat. I just can't see Luke in any movie that wasn't directed by Jar Jar Binks throwing in the towel and leaving everyone that he ever cared for behind to clean up the mess. "Pass on what you've learned".

 

I actually think theyve missed a trick having Luke NOT guarding plags tomb, I think it would be awesome

 

Luke didn't earn it? Yes he did... He almost pukes his eye out

 

the magic, indestructible lightsaber, that meant very little in the first 6 movies now being the most important thing in the entire galaxy

luke starting a new jedi order just to have them all killed off, it seems pointless

luke being off as some crazy hermit, just giving up

. no matter what i think TFA will be a good movie, but if the whole plot is based on the lightsaber and luke is the only jedi, i don't think the movie will be the amazing movie we all hope it should be.

 

It just occurred to me. JJ and Kasdan re wrote the script to include the original cast in more than just a cameo, unlike the previous writers' script, who focused more on the children. Wouldn't it be disrespectful if the original "big three" weren't seen together on screen ever again because Luke was too busy hiding like some coward, while Han dies?

 

Looking at what JJs mate said, no one had full scripts, and no one took them home. So how would msw know if luke only has one scene?

 

I don't mind knowing some of the spoilers. I can only create it in my mind so much. I don't have Final Cut Pro in my brain to picture as good as it could be on screen. It's when it comes on screen that it will blow me away.

 

The early rumors that Maul could be the main bad guy of the ST! Hope it's not true!