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What scenes would you change and how?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Drail14me, Dec 24, 2016.

  1. Lt. Hija

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    I'm even more concerned that General Willard, the commander-in-chief of the Rebel Forces (according to the ANH screenplay and the first draft for ESB) had no line whatsoever or cast credit... :(

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    (Definitely the most prominent victim of EU research negligence)

    And where was Colonel Ristt, which EU mis-identified as "Commander Hudsol"?

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    (according to the animated film of the Star Wars Holiday Special the character was "General Ristt", apparently having been promoted after ANH)
     
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    I'd like to know y the Rebels have gone from mostly American accented 2 now mostly British.
     
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    I would change James earls voice of Vader to a digitally mastered version....yes, seriously. I think jej's original voice of Vader in the original 3 was unequivocal amongst the voices of the entire human race for the parr, but when I first watched RO i thougt, why the hell couldn't they have recreated his voice better when they did such a good job with tarkin ( voice and visually). Then I found out it was jej's voice for Vader in RO. Sorry jej, u were incomparable in the original 3, but in RO the producers made a bad call.....plus i would have liked to see more of Vader without the suit!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    There's no mistaking JEJ voice... sure it's aged compared to when he recorded dialogue for the OT, but no-one else should ever voice Vader on film!*


    *as opposed to TV/spin-off
     
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    Idk since all I remember from R1, besides that it looked gorgeous, are the two awesome Vader scenes and the space battle at the end.

    So more Vader scenes would have been nice, I guess.
     
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    I probably would've changed around the Eadu scene part of the film. I thought it was a little slow.. I can't put my finger on anything though. It's easy to say I'd change something but much harder to come up with something practically better.

    I would've had one more Vader scene too. I would've introduced Vader earlier into the film (where he chokes Krennic), given him another scene where he's being a badass and definitely keep that sweet sweet ending scene.
     
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    At least we got a closure to his character in the book Aftermath: Empire's End
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    When I saw that scene, I couldn't help remember that scene from Full Metal Jacket where that guy yells "Come Get Some"

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    When a film is made in the UK under our generous studio tax laws, (which is why so many foreign films are made here) a certain quota of locally grown British actors have to be employed. Plus they're cheaper and are naturally better actors anyway.
    ;)
     
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    Guess Garth Edwards never heard of the miracle of dubbing then!:p
     
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    Hmmm, now that I'm thinking about it...

    • I would have saved 3PO and R2's cameos for the scene on the Tantive IV, without dialogue. Just have the Rebel soldiers run past them. Would've made more sense and been less of a fan-service moment.
    • As others have said, I would have left the Cantina guys out
    • I would have edited the existing version, or used another take, of Vader's, "Prepare a boarding party" line. James Earl Jones sounded quite good in the Mustafar scene (and in Rebels), so we know his voice isn't the problem. But the delivery of that line sounded tired and uninspiring.
    • I would have gone with what the earlier trailers made it look like, as far as the Krennic/Vader dynamic (i.e., have Krennic act insubordinate and arrogant toward Vader) and I also would have had Vader choke - and kill - Krennic near the end of the film.
    • I would essentially keep the final scene with Vader, but have it be a showdown between Vader and one or two of the Rogue One crew that might have survived the battle on Scarif - in addition to the several soldiers in the hallway. I'm not sure which character it would be. But have the plans be safely delivered to the Rebels, then have this character sacrifice himself (or herself, if we want it to be Jyn) so the Tantive IV can escape.
    • I would have kept Saw Gerrera in the film into the third act.
    • I would have used the Princess Leia theme, rather than the Force theme, at the end.
    But that's just me. I loved the movie as it is, too.
     
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    I'd take out that tentacle monster scene, just replace it with a fade to black and let us guess that Saw did Bodhi Rook.
     
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    They actually dubbed some English actors. David W. Collins mentioned in his podcast that heand other American voice actors gave their voices to some Rebel Troopers so that more US accents are heard.
     
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    It's funny, I rewatched this last night and quite enjoyed his boarding party delivery - to me, it sounded bold, assured and the words of a man who knew he was about to wreck Rebels
     
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    more Vader action
     
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    Add a crawl. The immediate jump was jarring and took me out for a second. Easily could've explained Rogue One: Catalyst in it, too, so the casual movie goer knew what the f- was going on.

    I think I would've changed the constant jumps between planets. It was hard for me to follow. As a Star Wars buff, I try to memorize the planet names. For casual movie goers, I doubt they care about the names of planets, though. "Corusc-what?" Scariff, Jedha, Yavin IV, Mustafar? Er... yeah, I can't remember the rest without taking a trip to Wookieepedia xD. Keep it to a few planets. It was jarring cutting to all the different planets within minutes.

    The way Jyn's mother died was awkward. The pulling of the gun to shoot Krennic should've been a faster sequence. It happened so slow that it was awkward and looked staged.

    I would've changed most of Galen Erso's dialogue. His dialogue felt melodramatic and cliche. His character and personality were more fleshed out in Rogue One: Catalyst. The same with Krennic but less so. I get it. He isn't the star of the movie, but I didn't get anything but 'dad' from Galen. And honestly nobody cared when he died other than the sad feelings you get because our main heroine's dad is dying, which we can all sympathize with that. Also that argument between Cassian (sp?) and Jyn felt hollow after. It could've been better. Just different dialogue.

    I would spread out the deaths of our protagonists. It might've been the intention of the director, but having all our heroes die seconds apart from each other became exhausting and depressing. After the first two deaths, I was numb and didn't care about the others that followed.

    I really, REALLY didn't like Saw's involvement in the film. Forest Whitaker is a fantastic actor, and he played Saw better on Rebels. His portrayal of Saw in Rogue One was meant to be crazy. I get that. But he was basically a living, walking, talking meme. What was that CGI monster and why was it necessary at all?I would cut it out from the film, or at least tell him to dial it down two or three points. Just have Bodi (sp?) captured on Jedha by the Empire. "Imperial turncoat has information vital to the survival of the Rebellion and freedom of the Galaxy, but was unfortunately captured on the world Jedha by the Empire. Nobody knows what this info is, however. Pulled out hyperspace via gravity weld and is waiting to be transported or transferred into Darth Vader or Krennic's custody." If you want to include Saw, maybe he wants the information for himself, since he broke off with the Rebellion, and works with or against our heroes to retrieve Bodi.

    In that scene in Jedha city where the fight breaks out because Saw's "extremists" attack the Imperials. I would have them act more "extreme". They seem to shoot and blow up the Imperials the same way the Rebels do, nothing extreme about them. I would have them stabbing Imperials to death. I understand they won't have anything as crazy as decapitation on screen, but a way to really show that they take things waaaay too far. Maybe blowing them up even with civilians around to show that will really do anything to win this war.

    I have a few more, but I think I'll end it there since this post is long already! xD
     
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    Kyber great post, agree with all......some other ideas of mine , from my military background:

    • They needed a better organized plan for the Scarif attack - how about this? Bodhi gives them a general overview of how Scarif is laid out, maybe at a holographic map of the base. He could point out that the central tower included all the Empire records (and the Death Star plans) - the mission would revolve around gettting Jyn/Cassian/K2SO into the tower with the rest of the rebels arrayed around the tower, in a defensive stand against the empire troops. Could have tied in a lot of heroic last stands, including Blue Leader providing top cover.
    • Definitely needed an opening crawl - should have used the exact same sequence from the European SW R1 - with the Ep IV crawl up to the 2nd paragraph, then switching to R1 theme and the crawl "blasting " through the screen....
    Hey I have a question for you -- my son thought he saw one of Saw Guerrera's X-WIng's (Cavern Angels) - black and white covered partially by a tarp, in the Jedha destruction sequence near Guerrera's outpost.....did anyone else see that?
     
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    Yes. 1 of Saw's X-Wings was there. Now how Saw was able to aquire the Rebels newest & best fighter at the time because he was no longer a regular Rebel is a mystery.

    More believable if Saw had Y-Wings or other Clone War era ships.
     
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    Vader returning to the Avenger saying ''pursue that ship''.
     
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    Aside from changing some of the clunky beginning, I'd also go with the original idea of not having the transmission tower in the same building as the plans. Jyn and Cassian having to cross a Walker infested beach with the plans is just too cool, and I found the climbing inside of the data tower to be one of the weaker parts of the film (even before knowing what it replaced). Jyn and Cassian's stuff in the end really wasn't very exciting, especially compared with the battle outside. A shame they couldn't be made part of it in the final cut.
     
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    Good idea, I was confused that it was another tool at Saw's disposal.
     
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