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What would you like to see in Episode IX?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by Madmartigan, Dec 17, 2017.

  1. Madmartigan

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    Now we have a real perspective after watching Episode VIII The Last Jedi, and the difficult task J.J. will have to link some missed aspects from TFA (or not), what conflicts, planets, stories, characters would you like to see in Episode IX?

    To not bore you I will say a few of mine:

    -Go in depth with the Jedi books. FInd some mysticism and philosophical aspects to help Rey to understand the Jedi path like first Jedi did. Rebuild the order with ancient methods, probably a more mystical power.
    -More of the interesting mental conflict (and power) with Rey and Ren with an epic conclusion, maybe an equilibrium.
    -Inquire more in Knights of Ren or Maz Kanata.
    -Some political aspects to rebuild a new Rebellion.
    -The importance of the planet Jakku that seems insinuate Aftermath novels (not read the third one)
    -The importance of the Skywalker lightsaber
    -More flashbacks from Luke or Luke in force ghost.
    -More Chewie. And I repeat, more Chewie.
    -More Millennium Falcon
    -Measured humor
    -Maybe a new Jedi academy, with that broom child in his 15, with serious conflicts. A real badass again?

    Who knows. Maybe they will go anywhere. Now we have ssen TLJ, love the uncertainty of the next chapter.

    Cheers all.
     
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    Benicio Del Toro's character, DJ revealed to Finn onboard his stolen ship that the businessmen of Canto Bight sells weapons not just to the First Order but also The Resistance. I am hoping to see a new variant of the starfighter fleet for the new Rebellion and this is where a new design can come in. The time gap between Episodes VIII and IX will give the chance for the Rebellion to build up their army from scratch with the help of the allies arriving ( hopefully ) from the distress signal.
     
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    - Lando filling in whatever role relevant to the Resistance Leia was supposed to have in Ep IX. They still need a symbol from the days of the rebellion.
    - Knights of Ren
    - Some more on Snoke
    - Supreme Leader Ren being a badass

    To answer you're question on Jakku and it's relevance to Aftermath: It housed one of Palpatine's observatories, and was specifically designed to monitor Jakku's core, which has a special connection to the Force. It was also central to Palpatine's contingency, as it could be used to detonate Jakku's core, and therefore the planet destroying the last of the Empire and the rebellion which was drawn in to fight above the planet. This was to ensure the galaxy fell into chaos if Palpatine were ever killed.
     
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    -The Resistance now needs some serious help, so yeah, Lando would be a great addition. Especially if he can bring along a bunch of other smugglers and scoundrels.
    -With the help of Luke as a Force ghost, I want to see Rey build her own lightsaber, a blue double-bladed weapon to simulate her staff.
    -I'd like to see the Finn/Rose relationship move forward.
    -I want to Poe take over as the leader of the Resistance.
     
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    So at the end of the movie they tease that little kid having the force and wielding something almost like a lightsaber so I would love to see this kid (grown into his teens or somewhere near it) join the Resistance and be a crucial role in IX since he helped Rose and Finn escape Canto Bight. And because they need someone to really be there for them since they lost so much in TLJ.

    I’ve also been itching for something huge to happen with The Dark Side, like someone joining them to help fight a big battle. And when I say someone I mean I wish someone like a Darth Maul or even a General Grievous would randomly be found and be added in because I think it would make for a much more entertaining movie but I understand that the sole purpose of these movies is to see Kylo Ren and Rey and to see what happens with them.

    I’d also like to see maybe a old planet revisited somehow like Tattooine or Hoth or Endor. It would just be cool to have that nostalgia there since Luke or Leia won’t be playing any parts going forward. It would just add that feeling of “oh that was a really cool thing to see in the new Star Wars.”


    There’s so many things I can think of that I wanna see but at the end of the day, I don’t think we’re gonna see exactly everything that we want to. I think what’s going to happen is stuff is going to be added to the movie that’s NECESSARY and that falls in line with everything. I’m intrigued to see where things go and who comes into the final movie and how things end with Kylo, Rey, The Dark Side and just everything in general. Will we find out who’s Rey parents are?? Is Kylo truly pushed 100% to the dark side? What happens with Admiral Holdo? Does she takeover the reigns of General Organa? Like there’s so many questions to be answered and on top of everything, is Snoke actually out somewhere waiting to come into play? Because I felt like he wasn’t dead. I felt like he was only beginning and that he was just starting to reveal himself to ya but we only got a few minutes to see a corner of the whole picture. Hopefully IX is everything we want it to be.
     
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    In regards to what happens with Kylo ren / Ben solo.

    Everyone seems to think theres only 2 options.
    1. He is turns back to the light, be it at the end in sacrifice, or middle and he lives forgiven somehow.

    OR

    2. He becomes full tryant and evil villian, surpasses darthvader as he always wanted, and has to be killed and thus ends the Skywalker line.

    But what if there was a third option? One that is unique, subverts expectations, and still gives him an ending.

    We skip 5 years. The first order is now Law over the galaxy. Kylo Ren is now a powerful emporeror. Using the darkside to destroy his enemies, interogate, and execute traitors.He has created his knights of ren. Maybe, he even has a family. He got what he wanted...He has passed vader and done what he could never do.

    Yet, he is broken. He still feels empty and lonely, but instead of turning, he goes deeper into darkness. Now, his own grandfather, Anikan skywalker haunts him when he is alone. He asks Ren "Is this what you wanted?" trying to help him, but Kylo ignores him. Tell him "Ive become everything you never could be! Gloats, and tells his grandfather that he failed where he succeded. He grows more insane from these vists by anikan trying to warn him and save him.

    In the end, somehow, he is tricked into exile on an outer rim planet and loses everything. (Maybe by rey, or one of his own Knights of ren turning light. He is given the option to turn to the light here, but doesn't. ) He is now alone, with only himself to think about what he has done and what he wanted.

    Maybe, over time he realizes he was wrong, and gets to now talk to his parents and luke skywalker on that planet.....Or....He choses only darkness and anger. And thus, the sith force ghosts then taunt him and mock him "Look at how weak you were, your pathetic" and he goes insane all alone on that planet.


    TLDR. Option 3 is that Kylo ren goes into exile, and either goes insane or finds forgiveness in himself.

    This would be the first EXILE option for a villian. Would subvert expectations, and be very unique. (And would alow lucasfilm to keep adam driver since he is so amazing as kylo ren and it would be a waste to kill him)

    Thoughts?
     
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    1. A time jump of 5-10 years.

    This could be used as a way to explain Leia not being in the movie. They could use some flashbacks with some leftover footage/CGI from the previous movies to explain how Leia worked overboard gaining support from around the Galaxy and with it took a massive toll on her and she passed away.

    2. A Funeral for Leia.

    It could start the movie and with this we could see some returning characters like Lando. I think the death of Leia could jump start a lot more support for the resistance to get them up to speed to tackle the FO.

    3. More training sequences with Rey.

    Here they could have Luke return as a ghost along with Obi-wan and Yoda and help guide Rey.

    4. An Epic space battle.
     
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    Snoke.
    Plagueis.
    Skywalker origins.
    Finn, Poe and Rey being the epic ST trio they deserve to be.
    Heaps of Rey learning/teaching about the Force.
    Knights of Ren.
    Did I mention Snoke?
    Snoke.
     
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    My biggest hopes for Ep.IX are:
    -Massive time jump. 4-7 years
    -Leia's death should happen right before the movie and be the catalyst for the main plot
    -Resistance is now recognized by the masses as the "Republic"
    -Surviving remmenats of the New Republic help rebuild the Resistance after TLJ
    -Rey with force ghost Luke rebuild the Jedi
    -Finn and Maz are the first two students
    -Kylo Ren stays dark. Killing Snoke cemented his heel turn and they shouldn't go back on that.
    -Knights of Ren are a full fledged Sith Order Successor
    -One clear main Knight of Ren who is Kylo's main apprentice (preferably non-human). Would serve as the underboss of the movie and Finn's main villain
    -Lando is brought back (especially because of Leia's absence, an OT character like that can help fill her void)
    -I don't really care for Rose and don't care what they do with her
    -More First Order characters. Hux's credibility was damaged in TLJ. And Idris Elba type
    -The new Jedi are back to a more police and less of a military. Think Obi Wan and Qui Gon in TPM instead of the Jedi generals.
    -More alien characters in general
    -This might seem trivial but a beard for Kylo Ren (Adam Driver doesn't have a very tough face) and mustaches or beards for Finn and Poe
    -No major new heroes. Focus on the ones we have, maybe "promote" some characters like Connix but no new introductions.
    -Finn inspiring a Stormtrooper revolt. Would help fill out the depleted Resistance/Republic forces
    -I wouldn't mind if the First Order was rebranded the "Ren Empire" or the "Order of Ren"
    -All the Knights of Ren should have a _____ Ren name. Ren should be the new Darth
    -Give Chewie more to do. Maybe actually make him a ranking member of the army
     
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    I think there has to be a significant time jump, 2 to 10 years. I want the Knights of Ren to get a big part and I want to see Lando finally, it makes sense for Lando to come back now in the story as a veteran general for the resistance
     
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    Let's focus on what's really important here: Rey needs to get at least one scene in which she is wearing a pimped-out, frou-frou dress. I mean, come on, she's the girl in a Star Wars trilogy- does she really have to spend the whole time wearing scavenger gear? Where is the chiffon?
     
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    Force Ghost Luke

    also perhaps joined by Obi-Wan, Yoda, Anakin, and possibly a vocal visit from Qui-Gon Jinn, each to briefly offer a word of advice or reassurance to Rey as she continues her journey into the forest of Force knowledge and experiences.
     
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    Wonder if the actor that played Wedge would be keen for a role? You could have him as a high ranking General of the Republic who survived the attack in the force awakens. He could be one of the Allies in the outer rims.

    A Time jump could be gold for Disney to make another Rogue one style movie set between the two which could flesh the movies out even more.
     
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    Since I am still processing TLJ and currently lean on the "I hated it" side of things but still hope I can enjoy the rest, what I would like to see in EP9 is this:

    -A significant time jump from the end of the last movie...5, 8, 10 years.
    -The new rebellion has gone deep undergound.
    -The First Order has a tighter grip on the galaxy than the Empire had...maybe they are calling themselves the New Empire or something.
    -Supreme Leader Kylo Ren is somehow a much more mature and evil enemy, solidified in his dark side stance. There is no redeeming him. Maybe he is now injured or disfigured and has become more like Vader.
    -Hux attempts to kill Ren early on and Ren kills him. An older (more serious) officer takes his place.
    -Ren learns something about Snoke which ties in to Operation Cinder, Jakku, and the dark side calling Palps from deep space which Ren then pursues.
    -I'm not sure if Rey should have some adult apprentices who she has been training or not, as introducing a new Jedi (do Jedi even exist now?) this late might be too much.
    -Rey, Poe, Finn, and Chewie go on a swashbuckling adventure of some sort. I miss that in these movies. Show their strong friendships they've all made with one another.
     
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    Luke Force beamed himself to Tatooine and is not dead. Rey falls to dark side become half Robot. Luke has to bring Rey and Ben back. Snoke still lives and destroys All Lightside Force ghosts to reanimate himself.

    DJ trades his services to own the Falcon but then joins up with Chewbacca and resistance.
     
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    Things I would like to see:
    • Supreme Kylo Ren being a badass
    • More information of Snoke
    • Knights of Ren
    • No reylo crap (honestly so irritated by the tumblr community right now)
    • I would like to see Lando in Episode 9.
    • More info about this ‘connection’ Rey and Ren have
    That would be genius, sir :)
     
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    I'd like Episode IX to ...
    - have less gags and more banter
    - be more faithful to the setting but still be fresh
     
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    Okay, I typed out a more detailed thing for fun, but it sounded like a bad fan fiction.

    Here are the beats that I'd like to see, though:

    Each film is supposed to be focusing on one of the original three OT protagonists. TFA featured Han heavily, TLJ was a lot of Luke. 9 was supposedly going to be Leia's movie. Obviously this is sadly problematic now, but it could still focus on Leia if our heroes are constantly following in her footsteps. For example, there could've been a time jump between episodes, and now a few years later the Resistance is gathering support in the outer rim. Leia has gone ahead of the group to rally systems, so as our heroes travel system to system we see the effect she's had of inspiring hope in the galaxy, without ever really getting to see her a final time. Each time they land at a planet and it joins the resistance (maybe just 1 or two times, so it doesn't get too old) there's a whole "your princess is in another castle" kind of thing where the planetary representatives inform the Resistance of where Leia headed next.

    Near the end, our heroes run in to Lando, who informs the Resistance that Leia has headed out into the Unknown regions to seek more support. He says something like "That princess always was a trailblazer. Han never deserved her."

    The final scene of the movie shows a Corellian Corvette entering a very alien and weird looking system.
    Maz Kanata says something inside to the effect of "We are now approaching the Chiss Ascendancy". Leia (filmed from behind) affirms that, mentioning the multitude of systems and how it'll be a long time before they return to the parts of the galaxy they left behind.

    Then, maybe for added effect, Maz can ask Leia if they ever told Rey who her real parents actually were. :p


    -At one point, it was implied that 4 "Classic" Star Wars planets would show up. Here's my take on which I'd like to see
    Mustafar: Kylo Ren in Vader's castle
    Tatooine: The Resistance teaming up and recruiting scum there (maybe now taken over by Black Sun?)
    Naboo: Leia could have inspired them, and it would be a great time for them to refer to her as their "princess". Plus, new Naboo starfighters! (fighter)
    Mandalore: This planet deserves justice- also after the GCW, it'd be great to see Mandalore trying to reclaim its former glory and taking a side in the war



    I'm pretty convinced Snoke isn't dead. I'm not gonna make the case here, but the theories are pretty easy to find. I imagine that Kylo will not be fully redeemed, but a battle may occur between him and Snoke at some point.


    I want Rey to learn from Luke's example. While I want her to construct her own lightsaber (yellow double bladed like Bastila!) I want her to not use it much. Instead, I'd prefer if she attempts more pacifist approaches, even if it's something like Battle Meditation (again, like Bastila).

    I also think there will be conflict between Rey and Poe. Rey, having adopted more pacifist tactics, will be opposed to Poe's more traditional war strategies.

    Phasma will come back for Round 3.

    Unkar Plutt will return. Also, regardless if we get Maz's line about Rey's parents, I think we'll find out Kylo was lying.
     
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    - ReyBen.
    - Anakin & Vader appearing to Ren.
    - Poe vs Ren space dogfight.
    - KoR vs ReyBen.
    - Lando.
    - Snoke's backstory.
    - Vader's castle.
    - Horrendous death for Hux.
    - Destruction of the Millennium Falcon.
    - Something to do with Plagueis...something...
     
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    Luke's ghost haunting Kylo Ren. And Finn finally killing Phasma in a way that leves no doubt about her staying dead.
     
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